Is A.R a smaller C.Newton in the rough?

[mrcompletely11]

4 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

Anthony Richardson can't pass. He's a fastball pitcher that will get picked off 4 to 5 times a game in the NFL. He has 0 touch and can't layer his passes and has little arm talent. His footwork in the pocket is raw. He is a wildcat QB that every NFL defense will challenge to win the game with his arm.

Definitely not a QB Reich would want behind center. There is no stability to his game and he is not clutch with his situational football.

what if I told you the best qb from the last class had a 58% completion in college?

[ForJimmy]

55 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

what if I told you the best qb from the last class had a 58% completion in college?

Completion % rarely tells the full story. It really depends on the offense and average air yards per pass attempt and drops etc… I see a lot of AR’s passes going deep. A WCO QB for example should have a higher completion % than one that goes deep more often. That doesn’t make the WCO guy better or more accurate.

[Khyber53]

Just as in golf, let's try and stay out of the rough.

[beo]

50 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Completion % rarely tells the full story. It really depends on the offense and average air yards per pass attempt and drops etc… I see a lot of AR’s passes going deep. A WCO QB for example should have a higher completion % than one that goes deep more often. That doesn’t make the WCO guy better or more accurate.

Completion percentage is often just a measure of how efficient/inefficient the average pass the QB is asked to make is than anything else. It's mostly a meaningless stat. Especially when we're talking about college players. A big culprit behind Cam's lower CMP%'s here was that under Shula we ran the ball up our guard's ass two times for a yard and then drew up a long developing pass play on 3rd down with a bad line. Often forced errant throws and hits because we were asking Cam to make harder throws on average than just about any other NFL QB besides Rodgers under McCarthy and perhaps Luck in Indy.

That said, I think AR does have some large problems as a passer but CMP% isn't really a fair way to measure it.

Edited February 3, 2023 by beo

[BEASTfromdaEAST]

To the OP question I'd say Yes he is. I would draft him if they don't feel comfortable going up for Stroud. You guys act like Cam was an accurate QB or make excuses for him when continuously missing open receivers at all levels(short,mid and deep) even before TJ Watt nuked his shoulder.  I personally like the idea of having another dual threat QB running Reichs offense 

[GOAT]

3 hours ago, The Huddler said:

he looks like a faster dak prescott

[Brooklyn 3.0]

4 hours ago, Kentucky Panther said:

Nobody would want to draft this kid if Cam Newton never played on the Panthers. 

[AggieLean]

8 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

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Cams a fan favorite. Many panther fans love Cam. It’s great seeing you squirm whenever he’s brought up, but in threads dealing with other ex Panthers, getting on to those who, like you, want to move on from past player.

[Mr. Scot]

Just to add a general note here, "he reminds me of Cam Newton" is not a valid quarterback scouting observation. It's more a wishful (and often wishful) statement from a nostalgic fan.

Yeah, I know a lot of internet scouts like to do the pro comparison thing but I've always found that kinda lazy. It's really not the kind of tool a pro scout would rely on.

Trying to find the next whomever isn't good scouting. Just look at the guys that are there anf evaluate them as themselves.

Just for context, one of the reasons Bill Polian drafted Kerry Collins was because he reminded him of Jim Kelly.

That didn't exactly pan out either

Edited February 3, 2023 by Mr. Scot

[Mr. Scot]

This is pretty accurate...

 

[tarheelfan23]

I dont see Cam Newton in AR....but I think AR is the most gifted QB in this class and its not that close....he will need coaching for sure....but pure talent, he is the guy

[Brooklyn 3.0]

8 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

Cams a fan favorite. Many panther fans love Cam.

Thank you for making my point I made yesterday: People want Cam so bad they want to draft a worse version of him.

[ForJimmy]

I’m actually on board with whoever Reich/Fitt think is the guy. It feels weird to be somewhat confident in our staff…

[GOAT]

13 minutes ago, tarheelfan23 said:

I dont see Cam Newton in AR....but I think AR is the most gifted QB in this class and its not that close....he will need coaching for sure....but pure talent, he is the guy