Just curious

[top dawg]

2 hours ago, stbugs said:

What does that mean? He worked for two years with the Giants where Fassel was the coach before and after Fitterer was a scout there. He then went to Seattle where Carroll was the coach before he got there and guess what Carroll is still the coach in Seattle. Feel free to tell me what he knows about staff building and hiring coaches.

I said he was obviously part of why Reich got hired but the “driving force” behind the rest of the staff? There are lots of connections with Reich and the coaches or coaches Reich hired. Show me a connection between any coach and Fitterer.

It’s amazing the hoops people go through to make sure our current guys are lauded. What does it matter that Reich gets credit for his staff? Isn’t that what he’s supposed to do? 

I like the staff so far and Reich clearly was prepared to hire a staff and that impressed us more than Wilks. We didn’t all of a sudden tell Reich who to hire on his staff that had connections to him. 
 

Again, why do you want to say Fitterer did the staff building when he’s never done anything like that before?

Who said that he was the "driving force" behind the rest of the staff? I said and have said that this entire process has been a collaboration. I said that he was a driving force for the hiring of Frank Reich. You must ask yourself why you are so invested in not giving Fitterer (or Morgan for that matter) any credit. It's a collaborative effort. Campen and Tabor just didn't land in Carolina by accident. Reich likely is a driving force, or the driving force behind his coaching staff, but that doesn't mean that the GM who is now a real GM, especially one that lauds collaboration and is not ego-driven, much like the coach that is in his charge, doesn't deserve credit for any names that he has dropped, research that he has done, or calls that he has made. We simply don't know any specifics and can only speculate, but we don't have to speculate as to it being a collaborative effort because we've been told that it is. And honestly, neither Reich, Fitterer, Morgan or even Tepper have given us reason to believe they are liars.

[pantherclaw]

On 2/17/2023 at 4:59 PM, top dawg said:

Y'all can give Reich all the credit if you want to. This is a collaboration. Don't downplay Fitterer or Dan Morgan.

Head coach fills his staff. 

Pretty simple. 

[top dawg]

4 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

Head coach fills his staff. 

Pretty simple. 

Sure, but it's still a collaboration; Tabor and Campen are the epitome of that collaborative spirit, and should at least suggest to people what's going on.

[glenwo2]

On 2/17/2023 at 7:43 PM, Basbear said:

Frank just hire some west-side barrel guru as strength coach and be done with it!!!

Isn't that the dude from that 80's Stallone flick "Over The Top"?

[pantherclaw]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

Sure, but it's still a collaboration; Tabor and Campen are the epitome of that collaborative spirit, and should at least suggest to people what's going on.

So you're suggesting Frank was too stupid the recognize the talent that was already on staff. 

Lol

[ForJimmy]

Reich hires the offensive staff and DC. He is letting his new DC hire his defensive staff. It’s no secret how this works. He went into his interview pitching his staff candidates which is what helped him get the job.

[top dawg]

1 minute ago, pantherclaw said:

So you're suggesting Frank was too stupid the recognize the talent that was already on staff. 

Lol

No, that's not what I said. 

For the last time, "It's a collaborative effort." I just don't understand why this bothers some of you so much. 

[top dawg]

Just now, stbugs said:

 

You said that right there. Of course he had a hand in hiring Reich. Even then we don’t know if Tepper wasn’t blown away and said hire him. According to many on here, Fitterer didn’t make a single decision before this offseason.

He wasn’t the driving force behind the others. You can’t point to a single staff hire that was connected to Fitterer and I’ve shown he’s never actually been through a coaching hire before.

Tabor and Campen were obviously connected to Fitterer. 

Fitterer is a GM now---a legitimate GM. Get used to it.

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, top dawg said:

 

Fitterer is a GM now---a legitimate GM. Get used to it.

He's gonna sink or swim with this upcoming QB move.

[top dawg]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He's gonna sink or swim with this upcoming QB move.

Perhaps, but I highly doubt it. This is a new day with smarter heads and a more realistic outlook. Fitterer has the final say in personnel decisions, but us supported by Reich and an excellent staff.

[top dawg]

Just now, stbugs said:

Lol, so he was the driving force behind Rhule hires?

How about we see a good draft before we crown the guy? Either he was a yes man to Rhule or he’s not had good drafts or trades so far.

By the way, are you two friends because man you sure seem upset with the notion that Reich built a good staff because he’s got way more NFL coaching experience and connections than Fitterer?

Reich is building a good staff and as has been mentioned already he came to our interviews prepared on staff hiring. Reich built the staff and OMG kept two coaches who clearly did well here of course thanks to Rhule hiring them! Get used to it.

Fitterer has had good drafts, regardless if you see it or not, and that was notwithstanding Rhule. He's also amenable to learning, is not ego-driven, comes from a personnel/scouting background, and is well-connected That's why he is still here and Rhule isn't.

Fitterer is the Panthers GM, rather you like it or not.

[top dawg]

*whether

[WOW!!]

I’ll give Reich credit for his relationship and reputation in the league that made this staff assembly possible..

[UnluckyforSome]

I think it's a good start. The team needs a new direction and not the same old-same old that we've seen all our history. 

All the applause for what looks like the most impressive coaching staff in team history will not mean anything though unless we get the qb right. Easier said than done, but it looks like there is enough smarts and know-how to help with that now.

It sure feels like an exciting time to be a Panthers fan. Been a while for that feeling honestly.