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Panthers met with Hooker per report

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12 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

But we didn't use a top ten pick to get him.

This notion that you can just take a guy with good physical characteristics and teach him how to play quarterback at the pro level has blown up in more than one team's faces.

Sure but Willis was a short multi year starter at a low tier school that struggled with a ton of things QBs do like working a pocket. Just because he had hype by draft Twitter doesn’t mean the NFL felt that way and they proved it with where they took him.

Richardson while raw both Physically and Film wise is much much different than Willis and it’s a lazy comp. Examples of Raw QBs with elite physical traits going in the top 10 is pretty low with like Allen and Lance being the two to draw from probably in recent years, it’s pretty rare an nfl team will throw a top 10 pick ONLY due to upside with QBs.

NFL teams waited till the 3rd for Willis for a reason and with the Titans investment it’s not going to set them back very far.  I’m very curious where they take Richardson think that’ll tell us a lot more about his skillset. I don’t necessarily want him but taking a flyer on athleticism in the third is a way different story than top 10.

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

And basically do the same thing to him that the Panthers did to Newton.

Mahomes and Rodgers were both backups for a year (or more) while refining their abilities, prior to being awarded their starting positions.

Mohomes recently credited Alex Smith with shortening his learning curve, saying what he learned in three months w/Alex's help might have taken him up to three years to learn on his own.

Having time to sit and absorb information without the unrelenting pressure of being a starting NFL QB is invaluable.  Even for the most talented rookie QBs.

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8 minutes ago, stan786 said:

Sure but Willis was a short multi year starter at a low tier school that struggled with a ton of things QBs do like working a pocket. Just because he had hype by draft Twitter doesn’t mean the NFL felt that way and they proved it with where they took him.

Richardson while raw both Physically and Film wise is much much different than Willis and it’s a lazy comp. Examples of Raw QBs with elite physical traits going in the top 10 is pretty low with like Allen and Lance being the two to draw from probably in recent years, it’s pretty rare an nfl team will throw a top 10 pick ONLY due to upside with QBs.

NFL teams waited till the 3rd for Willis for a reason and with the Titans investment it’s not going to set them back very far.  I’m very curious where they take Richardson think that’ll tell us a lot more about his skillset. I don’t necessarily want him but taking a flyer on athleticism in the third is a way different story than top 10.

Willis was also projected to be a top ten pick prior to the draft.

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Willis was also projected to be a top ten pick prior to the draft.

Exactly, the NFL will tell us most of what we need to know with Richardson based on where he goes in the actual draft. If an NFL team is actually investing a top 10 pick into him its an apples and oranges comparison to Willis.

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I have been banging the Hooker drum for weeks, so I am a bit biased. 

I believe so-called draft experts have him ranked much lower than scouts/ GMs. There's no way he gets out of the second round, and I wouldn't be surprised if a team traded up into the late first to grab him (I hope we are that team). The ideal scenario for me would be to trade down into the mid teens. The extra picks gained from that trade plus some of our current picks would allow us to move back into the late first to secure that 5th year option.

People comparing him to Malik Willis are just being lazy. They are not the same quarterback at all. He will use his legs, but he isn't dependent on them. 

I view his age as a positive, as all the interviews I have seen he's come across very mature and humble. He just strikes me as someone you can trust to lead a team.

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1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:

No, it doesn't. Taking Richardson with so little experience and rough performance based purely on speculated potential is well, just a bad idea.

Well when you wrong you’re wrong and you sir are wrong. But I am glad your okay being wrong. 
Panthers are not gonna draft a QB in the second round. It is either first round or not at all. 

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31 minutes ago, ChuckWag78 said:

I have been banging the Hooker drum for weeks, so I am a bit biased. 

I believe so-called draft experts have him ranked much lower than scouts/ GMs. There's no way he gets out of the second round, and I wouldn't be surprised if a team traded up into the late first to grab him (I hope we are that team). The ideal scenario for me would be to trade down into the mid teens. The extra picks gained from that trade plus some of our current picks would allow us to move back into the late first to secure that 5th year option.

People comparing him to Malik Willis are just being lazy. They are not the same quarterback at all. He will use his legs, but he isn't dependent on them. 

I view his age as a positive, as all the interviews I have seen he's come across very mature and humble. He just strikes me as someone you can trust to lead a team.

I could see the Saints drafting him with that first they got from Denver for Sean Payton.

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