NFL: Wilson vs Carroll

[ncstatekwi]

[Mr. Scot]

Ryan Leaf talking about Wilson and Moawad's relationship...

 

[Mr. Scot]

James Palmer gives his take on the topic...

 

[SmokinwithWilly]

I live out in the PNW so I have had the "pleasure" of listening to the ranting and raving about RW for years. I can say that when they were winning, people were more willing to tolerate his behavior. In the past few years before the trade to Denver though, fans were not so into this better than everyone else version. It really put a lot of fans off. They cheered for him because he was playing for the Hawks, but that's about it. By the end, they were ready for the drama train to crash somewhere else. 

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

I gotta give you that.

My thing is that I don't think he's a bad person. I think that he has lost sight of reality a little bit, and that he's out of line with his own importance. I fault Carrol and Schneider for that though. They were his enablers. They allowed Russell to go places that he never should have been. Obviously when they wanted to reel him in, it was too late. He's their creation in several respects. 

Now let's see if Payton can't bring Wilson down to earth and help him to return to his franchise QB form. Many seem to be hoping that Wilson fails; I just want to see players do their best (unless their playing the Panthers). 

I think Aaron Rodgers is perhaps the biggest jerk of them all, but I would love to see him lead another team to the big dance if he's able to do it.

Makes me kind of wonder what impact being in the celebrity world had on him(famous new spouse). I don't recall any egomaniac stories from either of his stops in college. 

 

[kungfoodude]

47 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Ryan Leaf talking about Wilson and Moawad's relationship...

 

That sounds pretty cultish, TBH.

[Ricky Spanish]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Ryan Leaf talking about Wilson and Moawad's relationship...

 

That thought process honestly doesn't sound healthy in the long run. 

Doesn't even sound human tbh.

[run-run-pass-punt]

4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I've read a little about Moawad and a lot of his ideas boil down to the notion that you can prevent anything negative from affecting you by basically just denying it or not acknowledging it. That kind of thinking sure does sound a lot like Wilson.

It's ok, he just denied the reality of his own death...Whoops.

[SmokinwithWilly]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

That sounds pretty cultish, TBH.

Losing a mentor is hard. If they really were that close, I imagine it would similar to losing a parent or sibling. I lost one of mine several years ago and I can tell you, it still fugs with my head sometimes.  

[Mr. Scot]

3 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

That sounds pretty cultish, TBH.

Yeah. I think Scientology teaches something similar.

2 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

That thought process honestly doesn't sound healthy in the long run. 

Doesn't even sound human tbh.

No, it doesn't.

3 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Makes me kind of wonder what impact being in the celebrity world had on him(famous new spouse). I don't recall any egomaniac stories from either of his stops in college. 

According to Ryan Leaf, he first met Trevor Moawad during his draft prep at IMG Academy.

The more I read, the more I think that guy is the Genesis of a lot of his weird personality quirks.

Edited February 24, 2023 by Mr. Scot

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah. I think Scientology teaches something similar.

No, it doesn't.

According to Ryan Leaf, he first met Trevor Moawad during his draft prep at IMG Academy.

The more I read, the more I think that guy is the Genesis of a lot of his weird personality quirks.

Yeah, that basically sounds like head in sand nonsense. People need negative experiences to learn and grow. It's how you deal with and grow from them that helps you get better.

Just refusing to acknowledge anything negative.....that's fuging insane.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, that basically sounds like head in sand nonsense. People need negative experiences to learn and grow. It's how you deal with and grow from them that helps you get better.

Just refusing to acknowledge anything negative.....that's fuging insane.

Explains a lot about Wilson though, doesn't it?

[LinvilleGorge]

If this was a fight, Russell Wilson has been knocked down twice in the first round and barely made it back to his corner and is now embarrassingly talking poo from his stool as the ring doctor is seriously considering stopping the fight from the ass beating he has endured.

After Wilson looked like utter ass away from Carroll while Carroll helped a career journeyman look like an MVP candidate for half a season the scales are leaning HEAVILY toward Carroll.

[ichigo1057]

9 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

One offensive player said Wilson told teammates he had an “open-door policy” with his office, which to another coach seemed problematic. “So, are you a coach or are you a player?” the coach asked. “Your open door should be you sitting at your locker.”

I agree with this coach. A player really shouldn't be having their own personal office especially if it is separated from the rest of the team on a different floor as them. Just makes you seem like you are "better than them" or "Too good to be around" the rest of the team.