Andy Dalton is a Panther

[ECHornet]

7 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Club improvement incentive, so he's like the 3rd QB coach basically

 

Spreading the signing bonus over 5 years. lol

So his cap hit for 2023 might be just over $2mil. 

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, ECHornet said:

The $4.835mil signing bonus is Dalton’s at signing of the contract so that’s guaranteed. It is divided between the two years for cap purposes only. 
 

The 2023 base salary of $1.165mil is likely fully guaranteed. 
 

Those two total $6mil and many are reporting $8mil is guaranteed. I’m just wondering where the $2mil extra is coming from. Likely half of the 2024 base is guaranteed. 
 

So if we cut him or he retires after 2023, we eat ~$4.4mil in 2024 dead cap. 

I think they have to also account for incentives he will likely earn built into the contract.  Those little details that get ignored when numbers are tossed around. 

[ECHornet]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

I think they have to also account for incentives he will likely earn built into the contract.  Those little details that get ignored when numbers are tossed around. 

I don’t think any of Dalton’s will be considered “likely to be earned” once we pick a QB with #1. Maybe though. 

[Jon Snow]

Just now, ECHornet said:

I don’t think any of Dalton’s will be considered “likely to be earned” once we pick a QB with #1. Maybe though. 

They still have to account for them on the cap. 

[Luciu5]

3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

They still have to account for them on the cap. 

They only count incentives if they are "likely to be earned". That is why there is a cap adjustment. I think this years happened last week.

[ECHornet]

3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

They still have to account for them on the cap. 

Only if the incentive is considered “likely to be earned” which is determined by looking at the previous year. 
 

I’m unclear how they would consider Dalton’s incentives being he’s clearly brought in to be a backup/mentor, but he played quite a bit last year. 

[Jon Snow]

3 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

Only if the incentive is considered “likely to be earned” which is determined by looking at the previous year. 
 

I’m unclear how they would consider Dalton’s incentives being he’s clearly brought in to be a backup/mentor, but he played quite a bit last year. 

I don't know enough about this cap accounting stuff to offer an educated opinion because I really do not care about this cap stuff. Tepper pays a guy to worry about that stuff so I sure as hell am not going to worry about for free.  I'll let all the amateur GM'S play that game. 

[BIGH2001]

The first time he fugs up everyone will be clamoring for the rookie. He’s a good teammate and doesn’t have an ego. An upgrade over Sam. 

[Sub Zero]

I only worry was he brought here to start for a year because they are going for the Richardson experiment or is he a VET backup to help Stroud or Young from the sidelines..

[Silent Majority]

The old " red rocket", eh?

[CPantherKing]

Another big miss in the offseason. Any GM with a 36 year old Dalton on their QB board should lose their job.

[TheSpecialJuan]

8 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

Gross

Jordan ?

[PootieNunu]

4 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

Another big miss in the offseason. Any GM with a 36 year old Dalton on their QB board should lose their job.

Yea we clearly should have went for Carr or Jimmy G to waste cap and hinder our #1 picks development while these guys are trying to live out there childhood dreams in their twilight years.

gtfoh. 

Dalton is a fine signing, he has played just as good as carr or Jimmy G in the past and comes a hell of a lot cheaper. He also does not mind being a backup and will start in a pinch if needed. 

 

[Day1PanthersFan]

I thought one of the reasons we signed Anderson has the QB coach would be to help our rookie starter 

Why did we need to sign another washed up reclamation project?