Panthers sign Bengals TE Hayden Hurst

[Bear Hands]

3 minutes ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

Better than Tremble and Thomas combined. Although that's not saying much. 

Yeah.  He's good [enough] that if a starting caliber TE doesn't happen in the draft, not a huge deal.  But still allows us to select Musgrave/LaPorta/Washington at 39 if we choose.  

But then, if we don't, can still take a R4ish shot on a Schoonmaker, Kraft, Whyle type.  

Makes the decision at 39 less forced, can be the best offensive skill player available.  

Edited March 15, 2023 by Bear Hands

[CamWhoaaCam]

6 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

These people think we are done with our roster right now...

Apparently...

[Camp Fodder]

15 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

So basically DJ Moore was our entire offense?

 

 

Pretty much and foreman

[WUnderhill]

26 minutes ago, bobcat91 said:

Right now, we have a bottom 5 WR core, a bottom 5 RB core, a TE group in the bottom half and an unsettled QB situation. We are in a rebuild

CORPS

[Black&BlueBubba]

I think people still view him as a failure as a 1st round pick.  I don’t think he ever should have been that high.  

A SC boy getting to come home to end his carrier.   Hopefully he balls out.  Great signing. Makes our new QB much more comfortable.  

[GRWatcher]

His foundation is about suicide prevention.

[Panthering]

As a Gamecock alum I love the move. Still can't believe he was drafted in the 1st round by the Ravens though lol. Decent player for sure and a good guy who's got a cool story about sobriety. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Solid vet TE. I still expect TE to very much be in play at #39. Feels like that pick almost has to be WR or TE unless someone is there that's just shocking to still be available.

[thefuzz]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Solid vet TE. I still expect TE to very much be in play at #39. Feels like that pick almost has to be WR or TE unless someone is there that's just shocking to still be available.

5 tech that fell?  MLB?

I'm with you, but I'd prefer a wide out to a TE.  With TE's I'd rather do exactly what we did.  Just takes too long for those guys to contribute.

[Mistuh Jones]

regarding Hopkins... Only 8 Mil?!? LET'S GO GET HIS ASS - From Bleacher Report:

Hopkins has a no-trade clause in his contract and is set to carry a $30.8 million cap hit in 2023. That cap hit will be reduced to $8.2 million after Arizona takes on the $22.6 million in dead money remaining on his deal—but he won't be a fit for every team. He'll have to sign off on any trade, and teams will either need to have the necessary cap space or be willing to negotiate a new long-term deal.

Edited March 15, 2023 by Mistuh Jones

[Khyber53]

I like this pick up. Good solid guy, big improvement, the guy is used to winning. We need that. All of that.

[Skack25]

14 minutes ago, Mistuh Jones said:

regarding Hopkins... Only 8 Mil?!? LET'S GO GET HIS ASS - From Bleacher Report:

Hopkins has a no-trade clause in his contract and is set to carry a $30.8 million cap hit in 2023. That cap hit will be reduced to $8.2 million after Arizona takes on the $22.6 million in dead money remaining on his deal—but he won't be a fit for every team. He'll have to sign off on any trade, and teams will either need to have the necessary cap space or be willing to negotiate a new long-term deal.

I thought I read that his no trade clause was void because of the PED thing.

[onmyown]

2 hours ago, mbarbour21 said:

Draft is starting to look more open for us now. I doubt we will need to reach for anything. That’s what you want.

Offensive weapons…I mean Hurst is ok but he doesn’t change that or even close. This franchise will doom our new QB if they don’t get him a WR. It’s going to be bad, really bad. 

That’s said it’s really the only major need with oline depth and LB next. I wouldn’t be mad if Fit moved up back into the first for someone. Even then we need vets.

Edited March 15, 2023 by onmyown

[BrianS]

1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

Cut or trade Ian Thomas would save $3M, which would probably cover the cost of this signing. 

No, it wouldn't.  Thomas is 5 million in dead cap.  We only net about 1.5 million by getting rid of him.  Next offseason, it looks better with only 1.5 million of dead cap against a 7 million cap number.