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Natalie Miller (aka Verge): per her sources, Panthers moved up to #1 to take Bryce Young

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5 minutes ago, Panthro said:

I can corroborate the Bryce Young info @Vergeposted. The move to 1 was for Young. That said they do like Stroud and AR and were prepped to take AR if they moved to 3 if they couldn't pckg it to move up again. 

If Houston really loves BY they'll have to pay.  

 

So I need to start coping that the pick will be young........gods give me the strength......

Are you sure this isnt a ruse or they are testing the leaky people within the walls??

 

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I hope Young makes it big whether it’s here or not.  Opens the door for the little guy for years to come.  Nothing wrong with that.  
 

I have wondered before what Flutie would have done if a team stuck with him in the NFL.  He had an incredible football career regardless.

Young is way better IMO though

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50 minutes ago, Panthro said:

I can corroborate the Bryce Young info @Vergeposted. The move to 1 was for Young. That said they do like Stroud and AR and were prepped to take AR if they moved to 3 if they couldn't pckg it to move up again. 

If Houston really loves BY they'll have to pay.  

 

If he is the pick I worry more about him finishing every season on IR than his ability at qb. I've always thought he's the best prepared of the class for the past 2 season's. I do not think he will be the best of the class long term in the nfl. I have concerns about the others as well but not so much about their chances of finishing a season. 

This success of taking Young will come down to him staying off IR for 17 games and through the playoffs.  That is a huge gamble even if he's a great qb. His injury risk is much higher than the other qb's at this level I don't care what any of you say. 

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If he is the pick I worry more about him finishing every season on IR than his ability at qb. I've always thought he's the best prepared of the class for the past 2 season's. I do not think he will be the best of the class long term in the nfl. I have concerns about the others as well but not so much about their chances of finishing a season. 

This success of taking Young will come down to him staying off IR for 17 games and through the playoffs.  That is a huge gamble even if he's a great qb. His injury risk is much higher than the other qb's at this level I don't care what any of you say. 

I put panthro in the same spot as verge, both have called moves before they happened. 

Add in the david carr stuff, its past time to start listen.....no matter the amount of peanut butter i forced into my ear tunnel..

 

theres still time, but too much to get the sand hole started... 

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3 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Everyone knows this…it doesn’t discount what he did for me.  It isn’t impossible for a small QB to be great given the chance.  He also played a long time.  

Well at least he isn't Drew Brees. All you guys that have been spamming his name the last few weeks to boost the case for your favorite prospect should be ashamed of yourselves.

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Well at least he isn't Drew Brees. All you guys that have been spamming his name the last few weeks to boost the case for your favorite prospect should be ashamed of yourselves.

If you believe Stroud is the better player I am completely fine with that.  On certain days I feel the same.  It’s a great problem to have picking at #1.  We all pine for our guy.  Good stuff.

I have liked Young for a while now but I haven’t down played Stroud very much.  I do think he played from a clean pocket a lot and had incredible receiving options but he did deliver.  He is a top level prospect and I won’t deny that.

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5 minutes ago, Shocker said:

If you believe Stroud is the better player I am completely fine with that.  On certain days I feel the same.  It’s a great problem to have picking at #1.  We all pine for our guy.  Good stuff.

I have liked Young for a while now but I haven’t down played Stroud very much.  I do think he played from a clean pocket a lot and had incredible receiving options but he did deliver.  He is a top level prospect and I won’t deny that.

Good stuff.

Stroud/Young or Richardson I'll accept and hope for the future with any of those QB's as the pick.

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      Comfortability is the primary reason. They don't want to hurt Bryce's confidence. But I say if his confidence is that fragile that healthy competition which makes everyone better is enough for them to keep making Andy Dalton rich then Bryce was never going to be the guy anyway. Give me the QB who sees the competition amongst his peers and uses it to take it to the next level. Instead we get the guy who comes out looking like a deer in the headlights against the Texans after we've done everything possible to appease him. Definition of complacency.
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