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Bears would have accepted Moore, Burns or Brown.

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6 minutes ago, Varking said:

I don’t necessarily think it’s wrong for their situation. If Moore plays how he did here he’s going to help their young qb develop in a major way. For what Burns does you can pay Yannick to hit the QB and not play the run. 
 

Im a jury is still out on Derrick. He’s had one really good year so you hope he’s going to add onto that and not regress. 

We will see I just see a ton of value in him.  He is a key piece that could make this defense special.  I admittedly thought DJ Moore was good but a borderline #1.  Better as a #2.  He avoids contact, drops balls etc.  This is what my eyes observed with him.  He is good…above average but won’t be upper level.

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6 minutes ago, Varking said:

I get your stance. I just think if it’s that easy to snag a WR why have we been so bad at it? 

we havnt prioritized it in the past

 

we are about to have a whole new WR core.  i think you are moving the goal post a little bit. Whether or not some teams hit or even prioritize WRs or not doesnt change that there are a ton of them and that good defensive lineman are more valuable. 

 

its just a fact that good defensive lineman are more valuable than WRs 

 

we can replace Moores production a whole lot easier than finding great let alone acceptable defensive lineman

 

take the emotion out of it

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40 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

If true, I'm shocked we didn't send them Brown.

Nothing against him, particularly as he looked great last year.

But we made the trade to draft a QB at #1, having him a reliable #1 like DJ seems like a more important position to still have filled than a DT/DE.

getting your ass gaped in the middle and not being able to stop anyone from running the ball hurts a rookie.  WRs can be replaced and offensive production can still be had with good coaching and scheming

 

not that case on the DL.  idc what a handful of huddlers say, great DL get picked high in drafts, and paid for a reason. 

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19 minutes ago, Varking said:

I think the Bears valued DJ the most out of the three. Young WR under control with a friendly contract for a few years. Helps out Fields and rounds out their WR room. Burns is basically just a rusher and Brown is just a run stuffer. They got more boxes checked with DJ. 

its totally possible they wanted brown or burns and we said NO

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4 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

getting your ass gaped in the middle and not being able to stop anyone from running the ball hurts a rookie.  WRs can be replaced and offensive production can still be had with good coaching and scheming

 

not that case on the DL.  idc what a handful of huddlers say, great DL get picked high in drafts, and paid for a reason. 

I imagine that would hurt anyone, not just a rookie QB.

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42 minutes ago, Varking said:

I hear you but then why have we had such bad luck at picking and developing WRs?

 

41 minutes ago, Varking said:

Part of that is because Burns is basically no help in the run game and YGM doesn’t belong in the NFL. 

 

35 minutes ago, Varking said:

I can see it. My problem with Brown is a DT picked it in the top ten should be a QB killer type. Not just a run stuffer. He’s had one really good year in the NFL now. Let’s hope he builds on it and adds another element. 

 

28 minutes ago, Varking said:

Everyone is hitting on WR but us

 

You've got to let go of that past. Fear of the past only inhibits future decisions. There's a new Sheriff in town. Which means things around here are gonna be achangin. 

 

Also, I think you need to do a quick Google search about Brown and Burns. They are both better than you give them credit for. 

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You've got to let go of that past. Fear of the past only inhibits future decisions. There's a new Sheriff in town. Which means things around here are gonna be achangin. 

 

Also, I think you need to do a quick Google search about Brown and Burns. They are both better than you give them credit for. 

What have I missed on with either Burns or Brown? One is great at getting after the QB and is a liability in the run game. We’ve all seen teams abuse him from time to time by running at him. 
 

And on the flip side Brown had his best season but he’s a run stuffer right now who we would hope gets after the QB more. I didn’t say anything crazy about them. 

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9 minutes ago, Varking said:

I don’t think anyone is denying that. 

I personally can’t help but be worried when I look at Justin Fields college stats and  how strangely his career looks to CJ Stroud.  It’s bizarre the similarities there and Stroud isn’t a running QB like Fields.

Fields vs Clemson and Stroud vs Georgia.  It’s just weird.  Fields was incredibly accurate at OSU too

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