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Which player will benefit the most in the 3-4 Defense


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7 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

I’m most intrigued by Chinn’s usage, followed by Barno and Brandon Smith. Those two are freak athletes. 
 

I think McCall’s gonna show again how much of a UDFA win he was too. 
 

 

Brandon Smith is super interesting, could be a total boom or bust. If boom however, watch out!

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17 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

I’m most intrigued by Chinn’s usage, followed by Barno and Brandon Smith. Those two are freak athletes. 
 

I think McCall’s gonna show again how much of a UDFA win he was too. 
 

 

I get the feeling that Barno and Brandon Smith will benefit from the coaching as much as the new defensive alignment.   Good point.

I also like McCall, but I would not play him more than 25 snaps or so per game.  I have never been a fan of Roy--but I am biased against anyone who is here because Rhule coached him.  Do I see Tuttle stepping in as a NT?  Not really.  Brown would make more sense, especially in goal line situations.

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Perhaps the best measure of a coaching staff is their ability to prepare the bottom of the roster to challenge for a role as soon as possible.  I really liked the approach on day 3 last year--get the best athletes or the player with the most versatility.  Smith, Barno, and Mays were awesome choices.

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5 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Perhaps the best measure of a coaching staff is their ability to prepare the bottom of the roster to challenge for a role as soon as possible.  I really liked the approach on day 3 last year--get the best athletes or the player with the most versatility.  Smith, Barno, and Mays were awesome choices.

Day 3 picks are about two type of players IMO. Elite athletes that need skill development and elite players who have questionable athleticism at the next level. Both are risks but in the opposite direction. But that's the thing with day three picks - they all have quote a few warts. You're looking for diamonds in the rough. Most of these guys won't have long NFL careers. Try to find guys who can add something to your roster in the short term while they're on dirt cheap nearly cap negligible contracts and if they turn out to be more great.

 

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3 hours ago, Beast_3000 said:

You hit it on the head. If Brian Burns were in a 3-4 when he turned pro he would have at least three 10 sack seasons by now. He gained weight and filled out his frame over time to better suffice as a 4-3 end, but let’s be honest, it’s always been difficult for him against the run. He’s no longer out of position and will not have to line up against 310 pound offensive tackles on every play. 
 

 

OLB aka EDGE defenders still line up vs the OT's the difference is gap responsibilities,and the fact he'd be in a 2 point stance vs 3.

The new alignment IMO has a chance help tap into Barnos athleticism as his physique camp is Brian.

DB, Roy, and McCall are the only IDL over 315. Shy and DeShawn size wise are 3-4 DEs, as they're both listed right at / under 300 pounds. 

I think we see a body or two added via the draft,or latter free agency. 

Considering we'll be in nickel personnel the majority of the time, I'd say that personnel group should be what people really key into as that is roughly the defense you're in 65% of the time or more depending on the opponent. 

I think it's why we went heavy with the investment in Bell and Rowe. Playing Chinn next to Shaq as the 2nd LB, Rowe as the big nickel, with Woods, and Bell at Safety. 

This would give us the best mix of pass / run defense when facing 11 personnel, and being flexible enough to handle 12 from an offense. 

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49 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I get the feeling that Barno and Brandon Smith will benefit from the coaching as much as the new defensive alignment.   Good point.

I also like McCall, but I would not play him more than 25 snaps or so per game.  I have never been a fan of Roy--but I am biased against anyone who is here because Rhule coached him.  Do I see Tuttle stepping in as a NT?  Not really.  Brown would make more sense, especially in goal line situations.

Tuttle has always been a NT, a pretty good one with NO. His weight mite not be listed right become he looks bigger on tape. He is the NT, Brown would be a good fit at 5DE.

It would be a shame to stick Brown with taking on double teams all game at NT.

The DL is set with Williams, Tuttle, and Brown.

Chinn not playing FS is a win no matter where he lines up in the new D.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, NCBlu said:

 

Chinn not playing FS is a win no matter where he lines up in the new D.

 

 

This. Watching Chinn wasted dropping deep the majority of the time was just a waste of two years of his career. He can do it. That doesn't mean it should be his primary responsibility. It would be like having an elite man cover CB and playing him primarily in zone. You're just misusing your talent 

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