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Josh Klein on the recent Bryce “smoke”

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1 minute ago, ncfan said:

If Houston calls, and we seem even willing to move for the right price.

Then we don’t have conviction on the guy they want.  And Houston will know right away that their guy will be there at 2.

 

False. 

Both teams might like the same guy best.

They don't know who we like and we don't know who they like.  All we know is that at the right price we can be happy with either.

Houston may want to roll the dice and hope we don't pick their guy.  But if they want peace of mind, they will need to pay for it.

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1 minute ago, ncfan said:

If Houston calls, and we seem even willing to move for the right price.

Then we don’t have conviction on the guy they want.  And Houston will know right away that their guy will be there at 2.

 

As of right now it looks like we are leaning towards Young, but still like Stroud.  Even when we moved up the pick was still for sale as reported.  All I am saying is if Houston falls in love with Young they may come calling just to see what it will take to secure their guy.  Say we like 3 QBs, a team could jump to 3 and trade with us for their guy as well, jumping Houston.  Now if we like Young a lot more than Stroud then we should just say the pick isn't for sale.  I doubt any of these happen, it's just working out that our pick was for sale and we are leaning towards the guy Houston wants at 2.

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12 minutes ago, grimesgoat said:

False. 

Both teams might like the same guy best.

They don't know who we like and we don't know who they like.  All we know is that at the right price we can be happy with either.

Houston may want to roll the dice and hope we don't pick their guy.  But if they want peace of mind, they will need to pay for it.

If they call

and we’re willing to move

they know exactly who like most.

And it wouldn’t be Bryce who they want.

 

 

 

which means.  We would be taking Stroud and Bryce would be available to them at 2

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Touche, but I'm still calling BS on them being mostly 50/50 up to now. Everything I've seen has been more in line with the Huddle polls.

My point stands: CJ is the least controversial pick of the bunch. Saying that as someone who prefers Bryce. Most negative thing I've heard thrown at CJ is that he was surrounded by talent.

Dude, have you even read the scouting reports? I'd say that the most negative thing is that Stroud just becomes very inconsistent when the pressure starts coming. Under pressure, there is a marked dropoff in his game. That's coming from multiple analysts, but I'll quote Sam Monson from PFF.

 

"Stroud’s biggest weakness has been play under pressure — outside of his college playoff game against Georgia this season. His PFF grade from a clean pocket this season finished at 93.4 but dropped to 42.0 when he was pressured. His 10.3 yards per attempt from a clean pocket became 5.7 when under duress, and he ranked in just the 10th percentile in PFF grade under pressure. The game against Georgia showed that he has it in him to excel in those circumstances, but the rest of his college tape shows he hasn’t been able to do it consistently."

Anyone that isn't aware of this criticism of Stroud's game just hasn't been paying attention. 

 

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5 minutes ago, ncfan said:

If they call

and we’re willing to move

they know exactly who like most.

And it wouldn’t be Bryce who they want.

 

 

 

which means.  We would be taking Stroud and Bryce would be available to them at 2

I'll try this once more.

They do not know who we like most.  We do not know who they like most.  That is irrelevant.  No one has to tell the other anything.

The question is - will the compensation from Houston be enough for the Panthers to say - fug it, we'll take the one they don't.

There is no trickery here.

If we were truly 50/50, we may be willing to take Houston's 2nd.

If we were leaning heavily one way or the other, we may insist on Houston's other first or a first next year.

Point is, there may be a price where we would be ok with either guy.

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4 minutes ago, grimesgoat said:

I'll try this once more.

They do not know who we like most.  We do not know who they like most.  That is irrelevant.  No one has to tell the other anything.

The question is - will the compensation from Houston be enough for the Panthers to say - fug it, we'll take the one they don't.

There is no trickery here.

If we were truly 50/50, we may be willing to take Houston's 2nd.

If we were leaning heavily one way or the other, we may insist on Houston's other first or a first next year.

Point is, there may be a price where we would be ok with either guy.

It pretty known who Houston wants.

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