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Bryce Young Film Breakdown Megathread

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11 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

pretty sure i caveated every message with the fact the draft was still two-three months away and anything could change. However, have your moment if that's what makes you happy. Im all about people finding happiness.

Naw…No worries man.  It was like late last year.  No one knows what will happen

The QB I have wanted for 2 years is coming to Carolina!
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I'm more concerned about him seeing the field and his receivers seeing him. He's not going to be able to maneuver the pocket like he did in college.  He's going to get a lot of passes tipped or knocked down at the line and he will not be able to hold the ball as long as he did in college. 

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2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I'm more concerned about him seeing the field and his receivers seeing him. He's not going to be able to maneuver the pocket like he did in college.  He's going to get a lot of passes tipped or knocked down at the line and he will not be able to hold the ball as long as he did in college. 

Justin Herbert had over twice as many batted balls than Kyler Murray last seasn.

Height has nothing to do with it. Throwing lanes and arm angles.

Pocket feel and navigation also translates very well to the NFL.

I do agree he won't be able to hold onto the ball as long as he did in College, but he is capable of diagnosing plays and making a quick read very fast. 

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6 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Justin Herbert had over twice as many batted balls than Kyler Murray last seasn.

Height has nothing to do with it. Throwing lanes and arm angles.

Pocket feel and navigation also translates very well to the NFL.

I do agree he won't be able to hold onto the ball as long as he did in College, but he is capable of diagnosing plays and making a quick read very fast. 

The nfl defenses are significantly better than college defenses.  In college there maybe 2 nfl prospects on a college team at any one time. The rest hope to make a nfl practice squad.  The nfl has 11 guys that are nfl capable and will have 3 or four stars that are as smart or smarter than these rookies.  You cannot assume that college tape will translate to nfl success.  It rarely if ever does. All of these guys will have to evolve their game or they will end up on the street in 3 years.

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Where do folks keep getting the idea that Young's arm strength is suspect? He doesn't have the howitzer that Richardson and Levis have, but he had no problem throwing accurate deep balls after his shoulder sprain to start October.

I've re-watched all of Young's and Stroud's games from the last two seasons and am about to do the same for Levis, and I just don't see reason for the questions that people are raising about Young's arm talent. Seems like just another knock on his size because "he's too small to throw it far."

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16 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Justin Herbert had over twice as many batted balls than Kyler Murray last seasn.

Height has nothing to do with it. Throwing lanes and arm angles.

Pocket feel and navigation also translates very well to the NFL.

I do agree he won't be able to hold onto the ball as long as he did in College, but he is capable of diagnosing plays and making a quick read very fast. 

I agree and he showed as much in the pocket in school.  A casual observation for me but I think he stands in the pocket taller than Kyler (and is much less jittery with his game).   I'm more confident than not he'll dart passes just fine.   

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