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Bryce Young Film Breakdown Megathread

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Great game for anyone to watch if they want to see Young overcome adversity and take some hard hits.

Also Young's ability to reset his feet after escaping the pocket and throw a dime is special.  He can throw off-platform so well if he has too.  Look at 6:45.  Jukes the hell out of someone, still keeps eyes downfield, gets feet set and throws a strike.  Not many college QBs are doing that.

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9 minutes ago, Mage said:

Great game for anyone to watch if they want to see Young overcome adversity and take some hard hits.

Also Young's ability to reset his feet after escaping the pocket and throw a dime is special.  He can throw off-platform so well if he has too.  Look at 6:45.  Jukes the hell out of someone, still keeps eyes downfield, gets feet set and throws a strike.  Not many college QBs are doing that.

i've watched this game a couple times and he des get some really hard hits. some of them bordering on late and maybe even cheap shots. he handled it well i think.

i do think that people came after Cam hard and refs let it happen 1) because (as they said) he was big and he could handle it better and 2) because (and they didn't come out and say this , but you knew it) they didn't like his personality and felt he needed to be knocked down a few pegs.

Young 1) doesn't have  size so they can't use that one and 2) he can't be misconstrued the way Cam was as being cocky. i don't think he'll have it as rough as Cam was allowed to have it.

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19 minutes ago, Mage said:

Great game for anyone to watch if they want to see Young overcome adversity and take some hard hits.

Also Young's ability to reset his feet after escaping the pocket and throw a dime is special.  He can throw off-platform so well if he has too.  Look at 6:45.  Jukes the hell out of someone, still keeps eyes downfield, gets feet set and throws a strike.  Not many college QBs are doing that.

There's a lot to like in that tape and then there are things that you wonder will cause him trouble to some degree in the NFL. You like that he tries to extend the play but holding the ball the way he does is something the coaches are going to have to work with him on. You don't want to remove that from his game but also need to choose your battles wisely in that area.

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1 minute ago, frankw said:

There's a lot to like in that tape and then there are things that you wonder will cause him trouble to some degree in the NFL. You like that he tries to extend the play but holding the ball the way he does is something the coaches are going to have to work with him on. You don't want to remove that from his game but also need to choose your battles wisely in that area.

the thing that i'm loving is that he's coming to the game mentally well ahead of any from this class and ahead of where most QBs have come into the league...i mean that's the insight from people within and around the league. i've got no doubt that this is one area that he'd be able to clean up. every other aspect, i'm just excited about seeing him do, no matter who drafts him. he's going to be a fun guy to watch. 

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1 hour ago, frankw said:

There's a lot to like in that tape and then there are things that you wonder will cause him trouble to some degree in the NFL. You like that he tries to extend the play but holding the ball the way he does is something the coaches are going to have to work with him on. You don't want to remove that from his game but also need to choose your battles wisely in that area.

Yeah, that could be an issue.  But sometimes you have to take the bad with the good.  Not every QB will be perfect, you just hope they maximize their strengths rather than their weaknesses.  

Reminds me of Russ.  People crapped on the Seahawks OL, but Russ was responsible for a LOT of those sacks.  But Russ' improvisation is also what made him so damn good for so long too.  So kind of a double-edged sword, ya know?

But I do agree with you.  He will need to be smarter about what plays he chooses to extend or not.  

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1 hour ago, rayzor said:

i've watched this game a couple times and he des get some really hard hits. some of them bordering on late and maybe even cheap shots. he handled it well i think.

i do think that people came after Cam hard and refs let it happen 1) because (as they said) he was big and he could handle it better and 2) because (and they didn't come out and say this , but you knew it) they didn't like his personality and felt he needed to be knocked down a few pegs.

Young 1) doesn't have  size so they can't use that one and 2) he can't be misconstrued the way Cam was as being cocky. i don't think he'll have it as rough as Cam was allowed to have it.

I mentioned it in another thread, but I wonder if he will be the benefit of more RTP calls than others because of his small stature.   

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5 minutes ago, Mage said:

I mentioned it in another thread, but I wonder if he will be the benefit of more RTP calls than others because of his small stature.   

it could be. it helps that he's a really likeable guy. not that cam wasn't, but there were a lot of people irrationally put off by him and i think that he was targeted more than other QBs and more was allowed by refs because of his personality. 

i think stuff like that looks more dramatic and is easier to see with smaller individuals so it always looks worst. players would have to learn that they won't be able to get away with anything close to looking like a roughing the passer play and they'll pull back more.

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8 minutes ago, Mage said:

I mentioned it in another thread, but I wonder if he will be the benefit of more RTP calls than others because of his small stature.   

Probably. It really seems like a lot of the time refs determine a RTP based on how violent a hit looked, not necessarily if it was clean or not. 

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34 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Probably. It really seems like a lot of the time refs determine a RTP based on how violent a hit looked, not necessarily if it was clean or not. 

appearance is nearly everything, which is why you have players flopping dramatically. refs have to notice it and notice it as a big deal.

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2 hours ago, rayzor said:

people didn't think that Cam would fit in the NFL game. he did.

people don't think that Young will fit in the NFL game. he will.

 

I want to believe, I truly do. But every time I see a picture of him I can't help but be worried for his parents. They must be a mess before every game. Is this the game my baby boy comes home in pieces? 

 

I just hope we get our monies worth before the wheels fall off. Cuz it's probably going to be exciting watching him run for his life every week.

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