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8 minutes ago, ncfan said:

And no

this isn’t Bryce’s report 

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This is Bryce:

WEAKNESSES: Vastly undersized with a slight frame – measured 204 pounds at the NFL Scouting Combine, but his playing weight is “around 190 pounds,” according
to NFL scouts … minimal growth potential and doesn’t have the body type to get much bigger … his size will restrict his effectiveness operating muddy pockets and
ability to slip tackles in the NFL … his pocket arm strength is closer to average than above-average … his deep ball will lose some life downfield … won’t be able to get
away with holding the ball in the NFL as long as he did in college (average time to throw in 2022 was 3.02 seconds) … often welcomes chaos to buy time as a passer,
raising the odds of him taking hits … 12 career fumbles … his lack of size leads to obvious durability concerns … missed one game as a junior because of a sprained AC

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1 minute ago, ladypanther said:

This is Bryce:

WEAKNESSES: Vastly undersized with a slight frame – measured 204 pounds at the NFL Scouting Combine, but his playing weight is “around 190 pounds,” according
to NFL scouts … minimal growth potential and doesn’t have the body type to get much bigger … his size will restrict his effectiveness operating muddy pockets and
ability to slip tackles in the NFL … his pocket arm strength is closer to average than above-average … his deep ball will lose some life downfield … won’t be able to get
away with holding the ball in the NFL as long as he did in college (average time to throw in 2022 was 3.02 seconds) … often welcomes chaos to buy time as a passer,
raising the odds of him taking hits … 12 career fumbles … his lack of size leads to obvious durability concerns … missed one game as a junior because of a sprained AC

And who was his number 1 guy?

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1 hour ago, ladypanther said:

https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2023/04/12165217/TheBeast_NFL_Draft_Guide-5.pdf

If you can open it...the password is: Bea$stguide2023!

.....features 401 scouting reports, covering everyone from the superstars at the top of the draft like Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud to small-school, under-the-radar prospects whose names you might not hear until NFL rookie camps open. Across 15 positions (counting kickers, punters and long snappers), there are 1,893 player rankings and hundreds of college football programs represented.

You are always on top of the action.  Glad to call you friend.

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1 hour ago, ladypanther said:

This is Bryce:

WEAKNESSES: Vastly undersized with a slight frame – measured 204 pounds at the NFL Scouting Combine, but his playing weight is “around 190 pounds,” according
to NFL scouts … minimal growth potential and doesn’t have the body type to get much bigger … his size will restrict his effectiveness operating muddy pockets and
ability to slip tackles in the NFL … his pocket arm strength is closer to average than above-average … his deep ball will lose some life downfield … won’t be able to get
away with holding the ball in the NFL as long as he did in college (average time to throw in 2022 was 3.02 seconds) … often welcomes chaos to buy time as a passer,
raising the odds of him taking hits … 12 career fumbles … his lack of size leads to obvious durability concerns … missed one game as a junior because of a sprained AC

NFL models predicted similar including him taking very deep drop backs and having a slow release.  Basically said he will struggle in NFL unless he has an amazing OL.

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2 hours ago, ladypanther said:

This is Bryce:

WEAKNESSES: Vastly undersized with a slight frame – measured 204 pounds at the NFL Scouting Combine, but his playing weight is “around 190 pounds,” according
to NFL scouts … minimal growth potential and doesn’t have the body type to get much bigger … his size will restrict his effectiveness operating muddy pockets and
ability to slip tackles in the NFL … his pocket arm strength is closer to average than above-average … his deep ball will lose some life downfield … won’t be able to get
away with holding the ball in the NFL as long as he did in college (average time to throw in 2022 was 3.02 seconds) … often welcomes chaos to buy time as a passer,
raising the odds of him taking hits … 12 career fumbles … his lack of size leads to obvious durability concerns … missed one game as a junior because of a sprained AC

Vastly undersized is such bullshet.  My goodness.  Undersized ok, Fug vastly.

Like this is hilarious to me…every evaluation I have heard or seen has Bryce Young #1.  They promptly cover their ass talking about his size.

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