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ESPN’s Matt Miller: “There's a lot of like for C.J. Stroud there, but Bryce won the entire organization over.”

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I have a seriously hard time thinking Young is going to be able to withstand NFL seasons year after year. He might be ok 1st or 2nd seasons, but it might come to a point where he takes a hit and gets injured, then it’s going to be all downhill from there.

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1 minute ago, LegioX said:

I have a seriously hard time thinking Young is going to be able to withstand NFL seasons year after year. He might be ok 1st or 2nd seasons, but it might come to a point where he takes a hit and gets injured, then it’s going to be all downhill from there.

Burrow is like 6'3" 220 and tore his ACL his rookie year because of an incompetent OL. Cam Newton was built like a tank and had his career shorted by injuries due to overuse between running and passing, amongst other factors. Any player in the league can suffer a gnarly injury on any snap, it's just the nature of the sport. Where I'm going here is I wonder if frame is as much of an indication on injury risk/longevity as opposed to play style and supporting cast. I swear it feels like Drew Brees never missed one game in his two decade stint with New Orleans. 

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8 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

So it's a Tepper pick

 

I think Tepper is smart enough to learn by previous mistakes and has mainly relied on his qualified staff to make football decisions, including the chose of QB to draft.

That is not saying Tepper didn't have a certain amount of input, mixed in with  a lot of support in he background.

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2 hours ago, ickmule said:

I’d say this is it all the way.  Everyone was acting like the Reich hiring was such a great move. I never quite saw it as that. 

Defenders of the Reich hire often bring up the Superbowl victory he was apart of has the Eagles OC

Shall I retort with how many rings Josh McDaniels has , and he is such an elite coach isn't he 

Meanwhile we had the opportunity to sign one of the best offensive minds in the game, and genius didn't give him a second interview 

 

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26 minutes ago, FieldsOverTheField said:

 Eberflus / Poles have been there since '22

'historically' is irrelevant

A franchise history is never irrelevant; especially when you have an ownership that makes the same mistake over and over and over, etc.

The two highest rated QB's in Chicago History are Jay Cutler and Sid Luckman. The former had a decent career, but he was never a top 10 guy in the NFL. The latter, Luckman, was a stud...back in the 1940's 😆

Luckman retired before my 71 year old mother was born, and he still has more TD passes than any QB in Chicago history except Cutler...and he played at a time when teams rarely threw the football.

 Chicago unfortunately is a wasteland for QB's. That franchise has usually emphasized defense over offense; and running the ball over passing it downfield. I'm over 50 years old, and the Bears have only had 2 players on offense make the Hall of Fame in my football viewing lifetime: Walter Payton (RB) and Jimbo Covert (OL). The Bears had a chance to hire an offensive minded coach this past season to help their young QB. What did they do? They hired a defensive minded HC at a time when high powered with QB centered offenses are the current trend.

None of us are prophets, but I bet you Bryce Young will win, play in, or come close to making a SB in Carolina than Justin Fields ever will in Chicago.

 

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6 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

A franchise history is never irrelevant; especially when you have an ownership that makes the same mistake over and over and over, etc.

The two highest rated QB's in Chicago History are Jay Cutler and Sid Luckman. The former had a decent career, but he was never a top 10 guy in the NFL. The latter, Luckman, was a stud...back in the 1940's 😆

Luckman retired before my 71 year old mother was born, and he still has more TD passes than any QB in Chicago history except Cutler...and he played at a time when teams rarely threw the football.

 Chicago unfortunately is a wasteland for QB's. That franchise has usually emphasized defense over offense; and running the ball over passing it downfield. I'm over 50 years old, and the Bears have only had 2 players on offense make the Hall of Fame in my football viewing lifetime: Walter Payton (RB) and Jimbo Covert (OL). The Bears had a chance to hire an offensive minded coach this past season to help their young QB. What did they do? They hired a defensive minded HC at a time when high powered with QB centered offenses are the current trend.

None of us are prophets, but I bet you Bryce Young will win, play in, or come close to making a SB in Carolina than Justin Fields ever will in Chicago.

 

I'm not even a Fields fan, I don't think he is good, which is why CHI sticking w/ him over taking a flyer on a QB this draft is bad news

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40 minutes ago, KatsAzz said:

I think Tepper is smart enough to learn by previous mistakes and has mainly relied on his qualified staff to make football decisions, including the chose of QB to draft.

That is not saying Tepper didn't have a certain amount of input, mixed in with  a lot of support in he background.

Yeah I was half joking, just thought I'd get the thread off to a good start this morning! Judging by how he was pressuring Fitt into the Corral trade up last year I'm assuming he's at least letting his preference known in a subtle way

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12 minutes ago, FieldsOverTheField said:

I'm not even a Fields fan, I don't think he is good, which is why CHI sticking w/ him over taking a flyer on a QB this draft is bad news

Fields is only entering his 3rd year. The Bears really couldn't afford to draft another QB in the 1st round. Fields showed improvement last. But, he isn't' a top 10 QB. I think you can make an argument his isn't even top 15. I can't imagine there's a huge trade market for him. It would have been bad for them to have two #1 QB's on their roster. Arizona moved on from Rosen pretty fast to draft Kyler Murray, but Rosen never looked like a legit QB. Fields has at least shown the ability to make big plays. I think they made the right decision to build around him. I just think the Bears have a history of making bad decisions on the offensive side of the ball...and they're QB's suffer for it.

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