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37 minutes ago, t96 said:

It's both. Yes Brady won another without Bill but frankly he went to an absolutely stacked team that went all in in the short term for him and also had a very good coach in Arians. Brady may have never even developed into a franchise QB without Belichick.

I agree with that. 

Plus, for both Hoodie and Brady, if Marshawn Lynch gets one more carry and/or Atlanta decides extending the lead back to two scores and draining the Pats of timeouts with 4:00 left and the ball on the Pat 22, the narrative gets a lot different.  The road from 6-3 in Owls to 4-5 is pretty short.  And we haven't even mentioned what happens if Kasey's kickoff does not go out of bounds (and we will never know how that might have ended).

What was arguably their most talented team was shut down by the Giants.

I'm not diminishing where they sit in NFL history, with nine Owl appearances in 18 years and six wins, but those wins are a combination of great game plans, clutch QB performances, some solid defensive performances, buffoonery on the opposing sidelines, a little luck, and some sidestepping the rules.  The tenure alone is impressive in the salary cap era, because there is a lot of retooling involved while maintaining that level of play. 

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Jay Gruden, who was Washington’s head coach from 2014 to 2019, says that Snyder wouldn’t put in the work necessary to learn how good a player was, but would insist on making decisions in the draft and free agency.

“He wasn’t experienced enough in the business to make those decisions.” Gruden said on Kevin Sheehan’s podcast, via USA Today. “He didn’t put in the work. For him to pick a player in the draft is asinine. He didn’t put the work in. He didn’t watch the players. He didn’t go to the meetings. He didn’t go to the scouts’ meetings.”

Gruden said he doesn’t necessarily object to an owner making those calls, he just wants the owner to know what he’s doing. Before coaching Washington, Gruden spent three seasons as Cincinnati’s offensive coordinator, and he credited Bengals owner Mike Brown for participating in scouting and film study before making any decisions.

“Mike Brown, when I was with the Cincinnati Bengals, sat in meetings, watched the film, put in the work,” Gruden said. “When he made a decision, it was based upon what he saw, what he took in from the coaches and from the scouts. So I respected that. I don’t respect the guy that doesn’t watch the film and comes in, makes the pick, and tells you who he is signing in free agency. It makes no sense when we and the scouts are doing all of the film work, and all of a sudden, he comes in and makes the pick. So, I think it is going to be a very beneficial move for all of the fans and for the organization moving forward.”

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/jay-gruden-dan-snyder-watched-no-film-but-dictated-who-washington-signed-and-drafted

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They are throwing parties in Washington. Harris buying beer for the partiers.  Big rally for Harris tomorrow. Team employees are rejoicing.

During one of Jay Gruden's interviews today he was asked a question about Snyder and said“I didn’t really talk to him for the last year and a half,”

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/07/20/daniel-snyder-commanders-fans/

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Snyder is 100% a criminal. This stuff with football probably doesn’t even scratch the surface. His punishment is a check for $6 billion dollars and asked to go away quietly. If you want to see why our society is in the shitter this is a great example. 

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8 hours ago, ladypanther said:

They are throwing parties in Washington. Harris buying beer for the partiers.  Big rally for Harris tomorrow. Team employees are rejoicing.

During one of Jay Gruden's interviews today he was asked a question about Snyder and said“I didn’t really talk to him for the last year and a half,”

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/07/20/daniel-snyder-commanders-fans/

Now where have I heard a new owner buying beers for his teams fans before… 

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19 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Watch Washington win the NFC East.

 


That franchise was cursed under Snyder. Good riddance! 

They are in a coin toss for worse coaching in their division, although I probably give the Edge to Dallas, and they dont have a QB. Good luck with that. 

Watch them finish last in the NFCE and MoRon gets fired. Then all the talking heads will be going on and on about how good of a coach he is, when in fact he is poo. 

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On 7/21/2023 at 4:16 AM, 4Corners said:

Snyder is 100% a criminal. This stuff with football probably doesn’t even scratch the surface. His punishment is a check for $6 billion dollars and asked to go away quietly. If you want to see why our society is in the shitter this is a great example. 

All billionaires are criminals 

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