Person: Tepper indicates he's learning and changing his approach

[Tbe]

14 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

I think he won the title of worst owner in the league. Now let's see if he can improve. I can't imagine him being any worse. 

You should look into the history of the people who own the Bengals and Chargers.

[Pantherzilla91]

7 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

And they got a good draft pick out of it. What did we get with Steve Wilks? A slight moral victory and no. 9 pick that forced us to mortgage our future.  Tepper not only hired Matt Rhule but paid him way too much and left him in control too long. He then defrauded an entire South Carolina town. We have fake turf. The list goes on and on.  He is worse than even Irsay.  It's telling you mentioned only one other owner in response. 

You're not making any sense. You don't know the Colts got a good draft pick. It remains to be seen. Mortgaging the future? We needed a QB. There weren't going to be any left by the time we picked. Are you high right now?

Also i can add more owners-

Jets

Commanders

Chargers

Cowboys

Jaguars

Texans

Browns

Raiders

Isn't the Cardinals owner under investigation?

 

[Pup McBarky]

27 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

mortgage our future

Stop. 

[rebelrouser]

I forgot about the Brown's guy giving Deshaun Watson that contract, but you know who else was in the Deshaun Watson sweepstakes until the end? David Tepper.  I will also admit the Texans owner is pretty bad. The rest on that list are clearly above Tepper (I'm not counting Washington since he is pretty much out).  

[Pantherzilla91]

2 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

I forgot about the Brown's guy giving Deshaun Watson that contract, but you know who else was in the Deshaun Watson sweepstakes until the end? David Tepper.  

So were the Falcons and Saints...

[poundaway]

1 hour ago, Sgt Schultz said:

Oh, you're the poor slob that married my ex-wife!

Saying he is on his third coach and second GM is technically true, but his first of each were not "his."  He inherited them, they both needed to go, but between the timing of when Tepper took the keys to the place and what seems to be a tendency on his part to take a breath before sending people packing, they stuck around for a while before getting the axe.

Rhule is on him, as if Fitts.  One failed miserably and one is in front of the jury.  Reich is on him.

I'm not a "come in with guns ablazing and fire everybody" type.  Personally, I would have sent Hurney packing after the season started and then probably done Ron the solid of chopping him about the same time Tepper did, to give him an early shot at finding another job.  But, I probably had a stronger opinion of them both at that point than Tepper did.

Dumping and replacing Hurney first may have also saved us from hiring The Process.  Assuming his replacement was a good hire, they might have sniffed out the snake oil salesman and his wife's meat balls during the interview process.  Maybe not, but there is a chance.

I agree.  We made the playoffs the year before Tepper bought the team and were just a couple years removed from a SB run.  The wait and see approach was warranted.

[NAS]

1 hour ago, rebelrouser said:

He then defrauded an entire South Carolina town.

This is B.S. and you know it. Rock Hill didn't pay the share they promised he was just supposed to accept that? 

[frankw]

Sounds good. It sure would be nice to have a state of the art practice facility to go with this new staff and our developing roster.

[thunderraiden]

1 hour ago, rebelrouser said:

And they got a good draft pick out of it. What did we get with Steve Wilks? A slight moral victory and no. 9 pick that forced us to mortgage our future.  Tepper not only hired Matt Rhule but paid him way too much and left him in control too long. He then defrauded an entire South Carolina town. We have fake turf. The list goes on and on.  He is worse than even Irsay.  It's telling you mentioned only one other owner in response. 

A lot of what you said is true but by all accounts the town defrauded him, come on man.

[Prowler2k18]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Person talked about some of Tepper's recent remarks and what they mean in his latest article for The Athletic.

Excerpts:

The Panthers are on their third head coach since David Tepper bought the team. He’s working with his second general manager and is on to his fifth quarterback, which doesn’t even count the likes of Kyle Allen, Taylor Heinicke, Will Grier or P.J. Walker.

The one constant since 2018 has been Tepper himself, but the hedge fund manager has been making changes to the way he runs his team.

Tepper delivered some of the most interesting comments of the draft weekend when he dropped in on Scott Fitterer and Frank Reich’s news conference Thursday after the Panthers took Alabama quarterback Bryce Young No. 1.

...

Tepper, the self-made businessman worth $18.5 billion, acknowledged he was learning on the fly the first couple of years after buying the team from Jerry Richardson. He also emphasized a commitment to overseeing more thorough processes in hiring coaches and selecting quarterbacks, both of which were readily apparent over the past several months.

Tepper was funny, informative and self-effacing, which has not always been his strong suit.

“You guys have to understand, we were here a year and a half trying to figure out — I didn’t know what the heck. I was on the business side,” said Tepper, who was a minority partner of the Steelers. “Then COVID hit. So we’re out of the building for 2 1/2 more years. Then we are in the building and had a better chance last year to see what was going on, right, wrong and indifferent.”

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When the Panthers hired Matt Rhule in 2020, Tepper led a three-person search committee that also included former general manager Marty Hurney and Steven Drummond, a senior adviser to Tepper who recently left the organization. They interviewed four candidates and one had a second interview — Mike McCarthy, with whom Hurney circled back.

During the search for Rhule’s replacement, there were four people on the committee besides Tepper — Fitterer, assistant general manager Dan Morgan, vice president of football administration Samir Suleiman and chief administrative officer Nicole Tepper.

They interviewed nine candidates, three of whom received second interviews — Reich, interim head coach Steve Wilks and Kellen Moore. After Reich was hired, Tepper gave him a blank check to bring in assistants ranging from former head coaches (Dom Capers and Jim Caldwell) to several who look like future head coaches (Thomas Brown, Ejiro Evero, Josh McCown).

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Tepper employed a similar strategy after the Panthers decided to scrap the rent-a-quarterback model of the past three years and go with the draft-and-develop approach, which Fitterer had said was the preferred route since he arrived in Charlotte.

After acquiring the No. 1 pick from Chicago in a franchise-altering deal, the Panthers filled two private planes to jet from Columbus, Ohio, to Tuscaloosa, Ala., and north again to Lexington, Ky., for the pro days of Young, C.J. Stroud and Will Levis over three consecutive days. They also traveled to Florida for Anthony Richardson’s pro day after the owners’ meetings.

“I can’t emphasize enough, we are true to this process this time. Not all the time in other past years,” Tepper said. “But process in this coach. Process in getting this quarterback and not leaving a stone unturned. This is truly in everything we’re doing and everything that we did with the coaches and when Frank was hired. The process of, do we have the best person?”

“We’re not messing around. I’ll say it that way,” he added. “The work is here, truly.”

...

Having a plan at quarterback and sticking with it is the opposite of what happened during Rhule’s tenure. And though Rhule might have been the impetus behind most of those moves, Fitterer and Tepper signed off on them.

Of course, the draft-and-develop strategy may not work either, which Tepper acknowledged by saying there’s no “sure thing” even when taking a quarterback first overall. And Tepper is still going to be a hands-on owner; that’s who he is. But the fact he’s acknowledging where he’s failed in the past, taking a more deliberate approach and surrounding himself with smart, serious people is a good step.

Nice article…thanks Scot! 

This to me is the difference between Tepper and previous ownership. Glad to see new ownership’s willingness to take accountability and learn from their mistakes. As fans, we need to patient and give Tepper and co the chance to chart the right course for the organization’s future success.

[Prowler2k18]

20 minutes ago, thunderraiden said:

A lot of what you said is true but by all accounts the town defrauded him, come on man.

This Tepper’s mistake here was being too aggressive. Taking on such a big project with as a new owner with a subpar field product and shaky at best partnership was a recipe for disaster, which is exactly what it became.

Edited May 2, 2023 by Prowler2k18

[Sgt Schultz]

1 hour ago, Pantherzilla91 said:

You're not making any sense. You don't know the Colts got a good draft pick. It remains to be seen. Mortgaging the future? We needed a QB. There weren't going to be any left by the time we picked. Are you high right now?

Also i can add more owners-

Jets

Commanders

Chargers

Cowboys

Jaguars

Texans

Browns

Raiders

Isn't the Cardinals owner under investigation?

 

The Titans, Bengals, and Dolphins ownership has not exactly been a model of effectiveness, either.  Sometimes they manage to field a team that wins games and looks like they know what they are doing, but it is generally an accident and they eventually find a way to torpedo it.

[rebelrouser]

1 hour ago, NAS said:

2 hours ago, rebelrouser said:

He then defrauded an entire South Carolina town.

This is B.S. and you know it. Rock Hill didn't pay the share they promised he was just supposed to accept that? 

He breached the contract, had his real estate company declare bankruptcy so he could limit the damages he had to pay, and then settled for 20M. Yeah, Tepper was the good guy. This is how the rich get to screw people over without any personal accountability.  Tepper is a billionaire a-hole.  Put some damn grass in that stadium you cheap bastard. 

[Mr. Scot]

4 hours ago, Sgt Schultz said:

Dumping and replacing Hurney first may have also saved us from hiring The Process.  Assuming his replacement was a good hire, they might have sniffed out the snake oil salesman and his wife's meat balls during the interview process.  Maybe not, but there is a chance.

Boy would I love to know the answer to that question.