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Monday Night Football has three simultaneous doubleheaders this year


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3 hours ago, jfra78 said:

This is a dumb take, Bryce may not be ready week 2 and that has no bearing on him as a player or the future of the franchise or its coach 

Why would he be less ready week 2 than Dalton? They are both on a new team, learning a new playbook. A playbook designed for Bryce, btw, not Dalton. We drafted this guy in no small part based on his processing and preparation. If he’s less ready than Dalton, we’ve got problems.

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8 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

Why would he be less ready week 2 than Dalton? They are both on a new team, learning a new playbook. A playbook designed for Bryce, btw, not Dalton. We drafted this guy in no small part based on his processing and preparation. If he’s less ready than Dalton, we’ve got problems.

Easy, Dalton is a 12 year pro and Bryce has no NFL experience

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It's not about being safe, or about being reckless. 

It's about making the decision that is best for the team. 

There isn't a single fan that is qualified enough to even make an educated guess. 

We have arguable one of the best football staffs in the NFL, trust in them. 

Armchair coaches are never in short supply, despite there not a single job that pays for them. 

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2 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

We have arguable one of the best football staffs in the NFL, trust in them. 

Yeah, the same coach that was so clueless about QB he was on the phone with Rivers begging him to unretire , then he juggled Matt Ryan and Carson Wents as his starter,with mixed results , then he was canned

This coaching staff hasn't done squat, and you shouldn't trust them untill we get results , people acting like Reich is something, Riech is crap in my eyes untill he proves me wrong, the belief that things will be different here is what led to Rhule,Darnold , Baker, Cams horrible return, and now there are people already blindly defending him, when he hasn't done anything here

And if he doesn't start Bryce week 1, he is an old fashioned , do the safe thing, like Fox and Rivera, and if retread QB#4 fails, I will make more I told you so posts than I told you so!

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37 minutes ago, Day1PanthersFan said:

Yeah, the same coach that was so clueless about QB he was on the phone with Rivers begging him to unretire , then he juggled Matt Ryan and Carson Wents as his starter,with mixed results , then he was canned

This coaching staff hasn't done squat, and you shouldn't trust them untill we get results , people acting like Reich is something, Riech is crap in my eyes untill he proves me wrong, the belief that things will be different here is what led to Rhule,Darnold , Baker, Cams horrible return, and now there are people already blindly defending him, when he hasn't done anything here

And if he doesn't start Bryce week 1, he is an old fashioned , do the safe thing, like Fox and Rivera, and if retread QB#4 fails, I will make more I told you so posts than I told you so!

I'm so glad you left nothing out of your scathing , negative view point. 

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8 hours ago, Day1PanthersFan said:

You know how he gets ready, by playing, I thought we were done with the safe and cautious approach, I thought that's why people didn't want Wilks

Now we are OK with the player we have pretty much invested our immediate future in not playing, while a washed up journeymen QB is taking the snaps

 

2 hours ago, Day1PanthersFan said:

Yeah, the same coach that was so clueless about QB he was on the phone with Rivers begging him to unretire , then he juggled Matt Ryan and Carson Wents as his starter,with mixed results , then he was canned

This coaching staff hasn't done squat, and you shouldn't trust them untill we get results , people acting like Reich is something, Riech is crap in my eyes untill he proves me wrong, the belief that things will be different here is what led to Rhule,Darnold , Baker, Cams horrible return, and now there are people already blindly defending him, when he hasn't done anything here

And if he doesn't start Bryce week 1, he is an old fashioned , do the safe thing, like Fox and Rivera, and if retread QB#4 fails, I will make more I told you so posts than I told you so!

 

You know what's cool about living in the past as you do? You are never wrong.

 

You know what's cool about living in the present? The uncertainty of what is to come. 

 

You have a choice. Continue driving yourself miserable by being afraid the past is going to repeat itself. OR...you can join the present and enjoy watching what the future may hold.

 

But we already know which path you will take don't we?

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I don’t see any path to Bryce not being QB1 for week one.  #1’s overall start. 

I guess he could stink it up in the first quarters of preseason but Bryce looks like the real deal so that chance is slim

Even a mediocre preseason should be enough to go to QB1  

Likewise for game two as no way they bench him regardless of result of game one. 

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13 hours ago, WUnderhill said:

A lot of people don’t pay for that trash network. And there is competition, the Steelers are kicking off an hour later on the more accessible network. The Steelers of all teams. Might as well have made it Steelers v Redskins to complete the FU to Panthers fans who hate how big those fan bases are in the Carolinas.

Our household watches tons of college sporting events, so yeah it’s definitely worth it. 

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On 5/13/2023 at 3:00 PM, Day1PanthersFan said:

the belief that things will be different here is what led to Rhule,Darnold , Baker, Cams horrible return,

I tried to sort out that sentence, with more commas then should be in sentence when there is no list involved. Anyway, this section here needs quantified, because I'm reading as "Fans" are the subject of this sentence. Is that correct? As in, "Fan's belief that things will be different here...."

If that is the case, I'm super curious about how Fan's believing something leads to....well, anything tbh. Are you saying hopeful fans is how we ended up with Darnold, and if we were just less optimistic we would have had Mahomes? Is this like a metaphysical thing or something to do with essential oils maybe? I'm just so confused.

 

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