Brian Burns ranked #7 edge rusher in league by NFL execs, coaches, and scouts

[thunderraiden]

 

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"If he was in San Francisco in Bosa's spot, he'd be a superstar, too," the evaluator said.

 

Bosa was ranked #1. I always try to remind folks, Brian Burns has never had a consistent offense to play off of in his entire career, save the end of last year where he thrived. There is a reason he is worth 2 #1 picks plus more, a lot of you can't see it because our schemes have sucked, he has had no compliment on the other end, and we rarely played with a big lead for him to exploit.

 

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7. Brian Burns, Carolina Panthers

Highest ranking: 5 | Lowest ranking: Unranked
Age: 25 | Last year's ranking: 8

Burns' value to the Carolina Panthers was clear at the trade deadline, when the Los Angeles Rams offered two first-round picks and more for the rights to Burns. Carolina refused.

"He has special ability: length, bend, closing speed, multiple moves," an NFL personnel evaluator said. "But he's not a household name because he plays in Carolina."

Burns posted his first double-digit-sack season in 2022 (12.5) and made his second consecutive Pro Bowl. His 16.4% pass rush win rate ranked 25th in the league. Multiple voters pointed out that he didn't have a natural bookend rusher last year and played for two different coordinators. New defensive coordinator Ejiro Evero, considered one of the league's best defensive minds, should maximize Burns' skill set.

"If he was in San Francisco in Bosa's spot, he'd be a superstar, too," the evaluator said.

 

 

Edited July 10, 2023 by thunderraiden

[shaq]

28 minutes ago, thunderraiden said:

 

 

Bosa was ranked #1. I always try to remind folks, Brian Burns has never had a consistent offense to play off of in his entire career, save the end of last year where he thrived. There is a reason he is worth 2 #1 picks plus more, a lot of you can't see it because our schemes have sucked, he has had no compliment on the other end, and we rarely played with a big lead for him to exploit.

 

 

Burns is our best player currently, happy to see him getting the recognition he deserves. Still a young guy, I hope we resign him soon!

[Gerry Green]

6 minutes ago, shaq said:

Burns is our best player currently, happy to see him getting the recognition he deserves. Still a young guy, I hope we resign him soon!

 

Pretty much how I feel as well. Can't wait to see what Evero has in store for us this year. 

 

I realize this is a message board, and folks have a right to say pretty much whatever they want. But man...It really is kinda a shame on how many of our players are so undervalued by our own fans. 

[TheCasillas]

7th?!?! no way... i dont believe the NFL execs... The huddle told me he wasnt even top 10!

[pantherclaw]

Totally not worth a second contract. We'll be fine without a pass rush, we have the greatest QB!!!

[Luciu5]

Quick, trade him before his value drops anymore!

 

/s

[PNW_PantherMan]

Looking forward to see how he does with a real coaching staff and scheme.  Pretty much everyone's development and performance suffered under Matt Rhule.

[Gerry Green]

7 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Totally not worth a second contract. We'll be fine without a pass rush, we have the greatest QB!!!

 

You need to put an lol, /s, or a jk at the end there. I don't know whether to pie, or poo you. I don't know whether to be outraged and throw a poo your way.  Or pie you cuz I'm so dang excited for what's heading our way.

Edited July 10, 2023 by Gerry Green

[KSpan]

42 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

 

Pretty much how I feel as well. Can't wait to see what Evero has in store for us this year. 

 

I realize this is a message board, and folks have a right to say pretty much whatever they want. But man...It really is kinda a shame on how many of our players are so undervalued by our own fans. 

This is a stale take - few "undervalue" Burns as an edge rusher, if anyone at all. Little question that the dude is high quality in that respect. The flip side is more that he's one-dimensional and going to cost a ton. With a trade package on the table like the Rams offered, which placed a pretty dang high value on Burns, it presented the opportunity to spread that value around (since the Rams suck) and gain a big chunk of salary cap relief in the process, a key component to success in modern NFL.

Having that trade be successful isn't/wasn't reliant on being 100% sure that one of those picks turned into another Burns like is often framed, but rather that the value locked up in his position could be disbursed across multiple positions with good odds of turning a number of weaknesses on a growing team into strengths.

That said, what's done is done and he will hopefully develop into a true all-around monster this year. However, the potential of that trade that didn't happen can and will be discussed all the way until that final pick passes in 2025. 

[Rags]

7 minutes ago, KSpan said:

The flip side is more that he's one-dimensional and going to cost a ton. 

I'm curious on what you mean by one dimensional. Could you elaborate?

[pantherclaw]

28 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

 

You need to put an lol, /s, or a jk at the end there. I don't know whether to pie, or poo you. I don't know whether to be outraged and throw a poo your way.  Or pie you cuz I'm so dang excited for what's heading our way.

Know me well enough to decide on your own. Or don't  at all. No worries from me. 

[pantherclaw]

He's not one dimensional. He is just light for the DE spot. And at times got.man handled by guys who have 50 to 75 lbs over him. 

Let's just ignore his talent because he's not an all around beast of a 290lb DE. 

fug this gets old. 

[SCO96]

47 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

 

Pretty much how I feel as well. Can't wait to see what Evero has in store for us this year. 

 

I realize this is a message board, and folks have a right to say pretty much whatever they want. But man...It really is kinda a shame on how many of our players are so undervalued by our own fans. 

Burns had 1/3 (12.5)  of our total sacks (35) last year, with no true passing rusher threat any where else on the D-line. Marques Haynes had 4 sacks. No one else on the team even managed 3.  Our DT's combined for a grand total of TWO.  Our 2nd leading sacker was Frankie Luvu (7), an OLB. Despite the lack of help on the line it  seemed like half of our message board couldn't wait to get rid him heading into the 2023 season for draft picks(s) which in all likelihood wouldn't come close to replacing his production in the rookie season. I'd say that Brian Burns is definitely undervalued by "some" of the Panther fans.

[Rags]

1 minute ago, pantherclaw said:

He's not one dimensional. He is just light for the DE spot. And at times got.man handled by guys who have 50 to 75 lbs over him. 

Let's just ignore his talent because he's not an all around beast of a 290lb DE. 

fug this gets old. 

Seriously. It's like not paying Nnamdi because he can line up on one side or Richard because he can only play zone. Except this is a pass rusher -- way more valuable.

Yeah he's iffy against the run (not as much of a liability as the huddle makes him out to be, he knows his run fits) and he struggles sometimes when doubled, both points I know will be brought up during negotiations. He still wins most of his 1 on 1s fairly quickly and still is in his athletic prime.

But nah let's use one of those two first to maybe get a Brian Burns.