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Week 1 @ ATL winners & losers?


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1 minute ago, Mage said:

What he's supposed to do?  Some of you guys have crazy expectations.  

Ridder passed the ball 8 times in the second half and only once did he ever go deep.  So again not really sure what Burns is supposed to do.  Falcons adjusted and started going short on every pass play for a reason.

I specifically remember watching him stand around on 2 plays instead of rush. It's just hard to watch a motor like Hutchinson's and then see Burns.

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Just now, Mol3m4n said:

I specifically remember watching him stand around on 2 plays instead of rush. It's just hard to watch a motor like Hutchinson's and then see Burns.

Probably because he knew they were going to a quick, short passing game and was trying to time a deflection.

But yeah lets question Burns' motor.

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12 minutes ago, Mol3m4n said:

Burns looked like an absolute stud, then disappeared. I don't understand it. 

You just have to look at the run/pass ratio.  Pass rushers need the opponent to pass to impact the game.

Atlanta had 8 pass attempts in the 2nd half.   

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1 hour ago, Mol3m4n said:

I get it. I do. 

It doesn't excuse the lack of effort. 

Questioning effort when you don't know the play call or design is nonsense. Burns is a 3-4 linebacker now and not just a hand in the dirt defensive end. There were a couple of plays where he backed off tackle and obviously stood in a zone while a player blitzed up top. One play was a delayed stunt as the end kicked outside and Burns looped in behind him. These are sometimes the assignments in a 3-4. Find another player's effort to question, cause Burns wasn't the guy today. 

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8 minutes ago, NorthTryon said:

Questioning effort when you don't know the play call or design is nonsense. Burns is a 3-4 linebacker now and not just a hand in the dirt defensive end. There were a couple of plays where he backed off tackle and obviously stood in a zone while a player blitzed up top. One play was a delayed stunt as the end kicked outside and Burns looped in behind him. These are sometimes the assignments in a 3-4. Find another player's effort to question, cause Burns wasn't the guy today. 

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Odds are that instead of lessening his pass rushing plays, they'll do it on a lot of plays that in the past he'd have come off the field to get a breather.  That way the defense will never know if he's in the game as a pass rusher or not and will help everyone else on the line.

I think his appeared activity level will increase over the season as well, as teams will see this and start to run at him more often, to not allow them to give him "plays off" while still on the field.

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2 hours ago, Mage said:

What he's supposed to do?  Some of you guys have crazy expectations.  

Ridder passed the ball 8 times in the second half and only once did he ever go deep.  So again not really sure what Burns is supposed to do.  Falcons adjusted and started going short on every pass play for a reason.

They just hate the guy and put every failure on him like its not 10 other guys on that defense. Burns was supposed to have 6 sacks and 20 tackles today to avoid in scrutiny. 

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2 hours ago, Mol3m4n said:

I specifically remember watching him stand around on 2 plays instead of rush. It's just hard to watch a motor like Hutchinson's and then see Burns.

That was play call. I don't know if he was supposed to drop into coverage or spy or designed delayed rush, but it definitely wasn't his choice to not immediately rush the passer.

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