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Hot Take? That Was A Positive Game For Us


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8 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

The loser mentality and Stockholm Syndrome needs to stop.

At this rate some of the posters here are going to be dead and gone before the Panthers make the playoffs again.

All that matters is winning and the Panthers don’t win.

Brother I've lived through a decade of poo Canes hockey and some poo awful years with the Panthers since 96. 

But I'm this goddamn close to throwing in the towel on the Panthers fandom. It's that level of bad for me. Maybe it's just an accumulation that's hit a tipping point for me but like you said, it's about winning. I'll take moral victories but we aren't even achieving that much.

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14 minutes ago, NAS said:

Can we put this into perspective? They played against one of the worst pass defenses in the NFL that plays a lot of zone and not man to man. That’s why you saw more open receivers. You don’t think Bryce would have hit most of them?

Ummm.... Have you seen Bryce the first two games??? Absolutely not

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Just now, lightsout said:

Brother I've lived through a decade of poo Canes hockey and some poo awful years with the Panthers since 96. 

But I'm this goddamn close to throwing in the towel on the Panthers fandom. It's that level of bad for me. Maybe it's just an accumulation that's hit a tipping point for me but like you said, it's about winning. I'll take moral victories but we aren't even achieving that much.

Moral victories are why we ended up losing out on Justin Herbert as a QB. 

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27 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I'm kinda surprised to see everyone losing it right now, especially given how down on the team I was after last week.  But I think this game was a huge step forward for us compared to how bad we looked in the first two games.

If we didn't look so bad the first two games, I don't think people would be all that upset right now.  Seattle in the rain is about the hardest place to play in this league and sure, not everything was great, but we still put up 27 points on them and our defense kept them in check for most of the game.  It's not surprising that a playoff team from last year with a HOF coach was able to wear us down and figure out how to put up points in the second half, this was always an expected loss coming into the season.

The false start penalties are absolutely frustrating, but in that environment and the way many of them happened, it was clear that it was communication problems and not just bad mental errors, they'll work on it and I'm not concerned moving forward.

The most concerning thing to me was how much better the offense looked with Dalton in there than Bryce, especially with him losing Mingo as well.  He just looked "NFL competent" out there, something Bryce didn't and scares me moving forward with him, but that's not the point of this thread.

The other thing that has me worried is health though, our guys are dropping like flies out there, not good.

Loser mindset

 

Stop making excuses. We flat out suck. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Castavar said:

Apparently, a positive game for us is losing by 10 and commiting 8th false start penalties lol

Meanwhile, a Doubs lead Cardinals team can stomp the Cowboys and the Colts with a backup QB can beat the Ravens.

Minshew should have been our bridge QB years ago. Surprised he’s not been a full-time starter. 

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Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

Moral victories are why we ended up losing out on Justin Herbert as a QB. 

 

True but as a fan, I'd be totally down with losing that game in a shootout. Thought we were for a bit there, then realized after the missed FG that we were absolutely fuged. At least with a shootout it's like "hey, we battled and came up short. We can build on this"

 

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1 minute ago, lightsout said:

 

True but as a fan, I'd be totally down with losing that game in a shootout. Thought we were for a bit there, then realized after the missed FG that we were absolutely fuged. At least with a shootout it's like "hey, we battled and came up short. We can build on this"

 

I still believe Rivera tried to tank that game. There's no way to explain starting Haskins and playing him an entire half with how he was playing, then cutting him. 

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