Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Average time to throw (Spoiler alert: Bryce is 2nd to last)

LinvilleGorge

By LinvilleGorge,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

BamaFan Apprentice

BamaFan

Posted
Posted
4 hours ago, Cdparr7 said:

Got to get the ball out fast in a WC offense. Dalton knows the drill. 

This isn't Alabama where you have a top 5 OL and you can run around until somebody gets open behind some Vanderbilt DBs.

You’re right it’s not Alabama but he did the same crap there too. I was not a fan at all. Can’t tell you how many times we were yelling for him to get rid of it and it was always a short check down, underthrown midrange or overthrown deep ball. The guy may be extremely smart but lacks the strength and size to play at the NFL level. IMO

  • Pie 4
  • Beer 1
  • Flames 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
CPF4LIFE Grand Master

CPF4LIFE

Posted
Posted
5 minutes ago, BamaFan said:

You’re right it’s not Alabama but he did the same crap there too. I was not a fan at all. Can’t tell you how many times we were yelling for him to get rid of it and it was always a short check down, underthrown midrange or overthrown deep ball. The guy may be extremely smart but lacks the strength and size to play at the NFL level. IMO

I completely agree with you cuz  i saw same thing when i watched his tape and made it known on here. As a bama fan, do you also agree he threw the ball better in 2021 than he did in 2022?? His passes had more velocity and just looked more crisp. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
top dawg Grand Master

top dawg

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, CRA said:

Dalton is a fine mentor backup.  That’s what we need.  There is no point in him playing outside of giving Bryce time though.  That’s all. 

I can’t keep everyone straight.  There is a building narrative that some people just want to see us win pointless games with Dalton.  I don’t care about wins.  Especially pointless ones with Dalton.  They need to find away to get things settled to get Bryce back on the field.  

They want to see us lose pointless games with Dalton, just like yesterday, against an atrocious defense.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
top dawg Grand Master

top dawg

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, Varking said:

I’ll tone down the Stroud and Richardson comps to Bryce. I definitely understand it getting annoying. It’s just my way of coping with another standard season of racking up Ls. I get my hopes up on Gameday and then I’m let down right after. I usually counter that with well it helps draft positioning after we lose and there’s no first rounder so I’m working my way through it via other means. 

My ire will be directed towards Reich and Fitt at the appointed time if it comes to that. Bryce is destined to be compared to Stroud to some degree for the time being. I do believe that their careers are way too young to draw any definitive conclusions. But, comparisons are quite logical even at this point, and this isn't the starting point (which began before last season even ended).

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Varking Grand Master

Varking

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, top dawg said:

My ire will be directed towards Reich and Fitt at the appointed time if it comes to that. Bryce is destined to be compared to Stroud to some degree for the time being. I do believe that their careers are way too young to draw any definitive conclusions. But, comparisons are quite logical even at this point, and this isn't the starting point (which began before last season even ended).

New mod message sticky at the top of the forum seems to indicate they want less Stroud and Richardson comparisons. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
BamaFan Apprentice

BamaFan

Posted
Posted
11 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

I completely agree with you cuz  i saw same thing when i watched his tape and made it known on here. As a bama fan, do you also agree he threw the ball better in 2021 than he did in 2022?? His passes had more velocity and just looked more crisp. 

I can’t remember where I found it but in 2021 his passes completed that were thrown 20+yards in the air was only like 33% that’s horrible. You have to remember who he was throwing to in 2021. He had speed for days with Jameson Williams, JOJO Earle, Brian Robinson, and John Metchie. These were all guys that turned 5 yard slants and tunnel screens in to 70+ yard track meets and that’s just not going to happen in the NFL. Not sure where you would find the stat but I would bet anything that the 4,800 yards passing he had that year 60% or more was yards after catch from these guys. JS

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
parker Rising Star

parker

Posted
Posted
5 hours ago, Samppson said:

It really felt like he is questioning his throws ever since those two picks. I think he just needs to trust what he's seeing and rip it more, picks are going to happen.

Me too.  I noticed that against the Saints.  I think it's being a rookie starting out against two of the better pass defenses in the league.  

Minnesota looks like a good game for him to get right.  Their offense will be a challenge, but we should be able to run or pass on them.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites
96Bravo Proficient

96Bravo

Posted
Posted

Those of us who argued for CJ should root for his success in Houston. But we should support our new QB also. If Bryce doesn't end up panning out, there's probably some great young QB available a couple of years from now. 

I don't want to wait that long either...but, for now, what's done is done. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
ForJimmy Grand Master

ForJimmy

Posted
Posted
10 minutes ago, BamaFan said:

I can’t remember where I found it but in 2021 his passes completed that were thrown 20+yards in the air was only like 33% that’s horrible. You have to remember who he was throwing to in 2021. He had speed for days with Jameson Williams, JOJO Earle, Brian Robinson, and John Metchie. These were all guys that turned 5 yard slants and tunnel screens in to 70+ yard track meets and that’s just not going to happen in the NFL. Not sure where you would find the stat but I would bet anything that the 4,800 yards passing he had that year 60% or more was yards after catch from these guys. JS

https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2021/11/a-deeper-look-at-alabama-qb-bryce-youngs-downfield-passing-threat.html?outputType=amp
 

10-33 for passes 20 plus air yards through early November.

Here it is. The first chunk of his rookie season as a starter. Looks like he got better in the later part of the year (late November)

https://alabama.rivals.com/news/breaking-down-bryce-young-s-deep-balls-against-arkansas

After struggling with long passes earlier in the season, the sophomore has developed his deep ball in recent weeks. Over his last four games, Young has a 377.69 passer rating on throws of 20 yards or more, completing 11 of 17 for 437 yards and five touchdowns with no interceptions.

 

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mr Mojo Risin Mentor

Mr Mojo Risin

Posted
Posted
33 minutes ago, BamaFan said:

I can’t remember where I found it but in 2021 his passes completed that were thrown 20+yards in the air was only like 33% that’s horrible. You have to remember who he was throwing to in 2021. He had speed for days with Jameson Williams, JOJO Earle, Brian Robinson, and John Metchie. These were all guys that turned 5 yard slants and tunnel screens in to 70+ yard track meets and that’s just not going to happen in the NFL. Not sure where you would find the stat but I would bet anything that the 4,800 yards passing he had that year 60% or more was yards after catch from these guys. JS

To be fair...is that not what a "PG QB" should be doing? Get the ball to your playmakers and let them make plays. We just don't have anyone that's good at YAC. We had one of the best in DJ Moore but he's no longer here. Miamis offense is full of YAC players, they are out there and we need to put a few around Bryce.

But like I've been saying it's hard to get things right after just one off-season. It can obviously be done but more often than not it takes a season or two for the vision to take shape. Hopefully we are much improved by seasons end going into next year.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
BrisbanePanther Mentor

BrisbanePanther

Posted
Posted

While I agree that Bryce will be linked with Stroud and Richardson at least for a while, my whole thing is this urge that people have had to give up on him already after eight quarters of play.

Bear in mind that Darnold was 3-0 at one point and people everywhere was singing his praises.

Oh, and there were more than a few people (this board included) who were convinced that Lawrence was a bust and Mac Jones was a better pick. How'd that work out?

Bryce by all accounts is a bit of a throwback QB in a lot of ways...if he has a throwback type of rookie season but turns into a Brees/Aikman/P Manning career, we'll forget all about how he did the first two games.

  • Pie 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites
PleaseCutStewart Grand Master

PleaseCutStewart

Posted
Posted (edited)

It's just obvious we blew the pick... I think the top argument for Bryce was that he was NFL ready day one and an elite processor because of some dumb test he has taken every week since he was like 10... This stat just further shows that Bryce is not NFL ready and possibly not even a good processor of defenses

Edited by PleaseCutStewart
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • tukafan21
      With the first pick, don't draft a QB? Draft a DE? C'mon!

      By tukafan21 · Posted

      This draft is 2023 all over again, it's not hard to see. QB's who don't grade out as high first round prospects while at the same time, the following draft class looks to be loaded with elite QB prospects. Drafting a QB just because you need one (or making a bad trade to make said draft pick), when there isn't one worthy of that draft pick, is how you ruin franchises, just look at us right now.  
    • Anybodyhome
      Cellphones

      By Anybodyhome · Posted

      I upgraded to the S24+ a few weeks back. Very happy with it. 
    • tukafan21
      With the first pick, don't draft a QB? Draft a DE? C'mon!

      By tukafan21 · Posted

      LOL... Yet again proving you can't look below anything than what you see on the surface Mock drafts ARE NOT draft grades They are what people think will happen.  They are mocking teams taking QB's in the top 5 of the draft because that's just historically how drafts go regardless of the grades on the QBs.  Almost every draft expert, even those mocking QB's going high, have said time and time again that none of these QB's actually grade out as those type of picks. This is again, where I say you don't like to actually read what I have to say, because I already explained it. 2022 the exact same thing happened, mock drafts had guys like Pickett and Willis going in the Top 5 because that's just what teams usually do, but GM's listened to their prospect grades and knew they weren't worth taking that high, so they didn't. It's not to say QB's won't go that high this year, but it's to say that they aren't graded out as elite QB prospects.   And yes, I've never said I'm not a T-Mac homer. But me being that doesn't change that he will be the highest graded offensive player in this year's draft, at a position we haven't been able to solve since we lost Smitty.  Taking him makes all the sense in the world, my bias aside.
×
×
  • Create New...