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The offense with Bryce is getting worse every week


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1 hour ago, OldhamA said:

Did Manning look like he couldn't physically make half of the throws in the playbook?

Why I keep saying let him sit. We might lose but the game last week was more fun to watch than what we witness yesterday.

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Don't be shocked if we say Bryce reaggravated that ankle. That post game presser screams we need to get him out of the fire before he's cooked.

Lions currently leading the NFL in QB pressures with 49 through 4 weeks.   

When did Frank figure out that ankle was a problem last time? Wed? 

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1 minute ago, CRA said:

Lions currently leading the NFL in QB pressures with 49 through 4 weeks.   

When did Frank figure out that ankle was a problem last time? Wed? 

Frank need to switch strategies and stop putting Dalton in versus tougher opponents and get a couple of Ws in winnable games.  That ankle should have been a little tender yesterday during warmups if you catch my drift. 

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3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Three factors concern me greatly.

1. Bryce's arm talent is significantly worse than I thought. Pre-draft I said his arm was NFL average at best. So far, his arm looks well below NFL average. There's just no velocity at all and he seems really hesitant to throw more than 10 yards beyond the LOS unless the receiver is completely wide open.

2. Bryce's escapability isn't translating. He's getting chased down from behind more often than not.  

3. I can't sugarcoat how badly broken, defeated, and dejected he looked and sounded in that post game presser. His game doesn't excude confidence and that presser screamed an utter lack of confidence.

Here’s the issue I have with your third point: it’s damned if he does, and damned if he doesn’t.

Because if he comes out and exudes confidence, you’re gonna say “he must think a game like that is all he needs to play. What an idiot.”

But if he doesn’t and he falls on the sword, he’s unconfident and broken. 

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1 minute ago, Carl Spackler said:

Here’s the issue I have with your third point: it’s damned if he does, and damned if he doesn’t.

Because if he comes out and exudes confidence, you’re gonna say “he must think a game like that is all he needs to play. What an idiot.”

But if he doesn’t and he falls on the sword, he’s unconfident and broken. 

Nah. QBs have to walk a fine line between cocky and confident. Without that confidence it's over. As soon as doubt starts to creep in it's over. You're going to start hesitating and second guessing and everything is going to start happening too slow.

What is like to be hearing from Bryce right now is him saying he isn't playing well but how hard he's working to fix that and how he has all the confidence in the world that he'll get it fixed instead of seeing a guy who looks dejected and lost.

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Nah. QBs have to walk a fine line between cocky and confident. Without that confidence it's over. As soon as doubt starts to creep in it's over. You're going to start hesitating and second guessing and everything is going to start happening too slow.

What is like to be hearing from Bryce right now is him saying he isn't playing well but how hard he's working to fix that and how he has all the confidence in the world that he'll get it fixed instead of seeing a guy who looks dejected and lost.

I mean it’s not like he enjoys this, and he’s got more people who hate him than support him after 3 games, lol. Cam was miserable after the same time, but he was called a gamer for it. It’s just a double standard, all I was saying is that whichever approach he takes, the argument can and is made that it’s the wrong one. 

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6 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's painful watching some fans twist and turn to create excuses to ignore this reality and ignore the fact that the passing offense (and the WRs everyone has shat on) looked wholly different last week with a QB who could threaten the defense vertically.

unfortunately those same people will be the reason this franchise never gets its poo together. sTiLl mUh pAnThErS yA fAuGhT HuRd 0-17

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