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Davante Adams growing "frustrated" in diminished role, per Schefter....

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The ability to rush the quarterback in this league is more valuable than a receiver.  Skill players are great, but line play wins and loses ball games.  All the shiny pieces will not take the place of the guys in the trenches.  We have larger needs than WR imo.  We need to be able to run the ball on the offense.  When we had success early running Sunday, they passing game was much better.  We need burns or someone comparable on the defense to pressure the opposing QB so I would not trade Burns for Adams, who apparently is more concerned about his personal stats than winning.  

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3 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

But at what cost?  1st rounder which we don't have and a chunk of our salary cap in a roster full of holes.  I'm not saying he wouldn't help us, but our resources are better spent on other resources.  

The cost would be burns who it seems like we are not going to resign anyway. If we were going to pay him, it would be a top 2-3 of the market deal which would be a chunk of the salary cap too. I’m more confident in our FO to find a pass rusher again than I am a bonafide #1 WR. 

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8 minutes ago, Barney said:

The ability to rush the quarterback in this league is more valuable than a receiver.   We need burns or someone comparable on the defense to pressure the opposing QB so I would not trade Burns for Adams, who apparently is more concerned about his personal stats than winning.  

I'm starting to disagree that rushing the passer is more important than finding a WR that can score in today's pass happy league. Burns hasn't been able to rush a passer so he hasn't contributed. Having a Tyreek Hill impact player is more important that having a Bosa/Parsons player. You may be able to sack a QB 5 times, but if they a QB throws 5 TDs that matters more! 

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3 minutes ago, X-Clown said:

The cost would be burns who it seems like we are not going to resign anyway. If we were going to pay him, it would be a top 2-3 of the market deal which would be a chunk of the salary cap too. I’m more confident in our FO to find a pass rusher again than I am a bonafide #1 WR. 

If we trade Burns it will probably for done draft picks IMO. We need that 1st rounder back plus some hopefully. 

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2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

If we trade Burns it will probably for done draft picks IMO. We need that 1st rounder back plus some hopefully. 

Chances are whoever would give up a first for Burns is going to be picking late in the first round anyway, and we may be picking early in the second round with our own pick. There's a 95% chance that whoever you take there would not be able to contribute to the level that Davante Adams would be able to at any point in his career, much less right away when a weapon like that can help Bryce;s development now. 

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15 minutes ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

This just proves that he cares more about his stats and role than winning. They won in New England and he still got upset that he only got 2 catches! He'll come to Carolina to pad his stats and get paid. He left a good situation in GB because he wanted to get paid! 

They are 7-16 with him - he left Green Bay because he grew up a Raiders fan and wanted to play with his college QB Derek Carr and thought he'd have a better shot to win there over the next few years. He also knew that Rodgers would play the will he or won't he come back game that Favre played every year and probably didn't want to have to deal with that. I'm guessing he sees that with McDaniels and co that organization isn't going anywhere. I don't blame him for wanting out - the real question is whether he'd actually want to come here (I'm guessing not).

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2 minutes ago, X-Clown said:

Chances are whoever would give up a first for Burns is going to be picking late in the first round anyway, and we may be picking early in the second round with our own pick. There's a 95% chance that whoever you take there would not be able to contribute to the level that Davante Adams would be able to at any point in his career, much less right away when a weapon like that can help Bryce;s development now. 

You have a lot of great points, but to me the picks make the most sense.  Example we trade Burns to the Ravens for their 1st and 3rd possibly a low tier player as well.  So now we have a first and third in the draft to build around Bryce plus the extra cap space we save by not having to pay the Adams contract which is $17 million next year then jumps to $35 million a year the next two years when he is 32/33 years old.  You could add 3 solid players for that kind of money.  So now you have 3 vet players to fill roster spots, plus a 1st, plus a 3rd (so 5 possible starters) vs Adams (who won't be happy hear if he isn't happy in LV).  

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Adams was picked in the 2nd round at the 53rd pick...

There are always WRs around in the draft, Fritterer just likes to draft ones that don't play well. Not too many people still wanting to see him employed here much longer. Get a new GM and let him build a real roster the right way and not more waste like this. 

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