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QB School Bryce Young vs Colts


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19 minutes ago, Cdparr7 said:

Yeah not really. I haven’t seen any overthrow past 15-20 yards. 
 

He’s really airing it out there 

 

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Like I said, you’re not watching lol. He had 2 overthrown deep balls (40+ yards) in the first game alone. I don’t know if it’s your eyesight or your memory but you might wanna get both checked. 

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2 hours ago, OldhamA said:

It's not rocket science, he can attack the defence at all three levels. Young cannot. 

That’s why I was legitimately asking the question. There seemed to be a lot more plays available to be made with dalton back there. But when Bryce plays we just hear that no one is open and show a few cherry picked plays to prove the point 

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2 hours ago, Cam Lawter said:

Where do you want the ball to go

ignore the dude, he made some weird comments about Young’s religious belief (as well as Reich and Stroud, who he was just as down on lol) 

he was a huge Sam darnold stan who melted down once he realized they were punting that guy as quickly as they could and then started making weird discriminatory comments about Bryce and Cj because of what they believed

he was also nowhere to be found after the Texans game like lol 

 

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1 hour ago, nctommy said:

Everything about our team is dysfunctional from Tepper down.  I understand everyone's anger but I find myself not even getting upset when they lose now.  But looking for answers about our dismal offense, I found this article.  Seems to me that Thomas Brown was the key creator of the playbook, then blended it with the others including Frank.  So who takes the fall? 

Brown said. "So building a brand-new offense from ground zero essentially based on what we've done before, both myself in my previous experiences from the Rams, but also in college as well. Then kind of blending together with what Frank has done, and guys in the room as well.""

 https://www.panthers.com/news/thomas-brown-dives-into-the-work-behind-creating-all-new-playbook

Both need to take the fall, both need to be fired. 

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I watch JT and the Jackson Krueger YouTube video analysis on Bryce's play on a weekly basis. They both have very similar things to say. The theme is that Bryce doesn't have any help at all from protection, WR separation, and play calling. The most upsetting thing about this offense is the coaching staff, if we expected Bryce to be great because he was #1 overall pick, then we also need to be hyper critical of frank and his staff. This staff was supposed to be ALL STAR and with DECADES OF FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGE. This coaching staff is failing Bryce Young! 

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1 hour ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

I watch JT and the Jackson Krueger YouTube video analysis on Bryce's play on a weekly basis. They both have very similar things to say. The theme is that Bryce doesn't have any help at all from protection, WR separation, and play calling. The most upsetting thing about this offense is the coaching staff, if we expected Bryce to be great because he was #1 overall pick, then we also need to be hyper critical of frank and his staff. This staff was supposed to be ALL STAR and with DECADES OF FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGE. This coaching staff is failing Bryce Young! 

Yup! It’s interesting how that’s not something people wanna talk about here, just put it all on the quarterback. Is he supposed to throw for 400 and 4 touchdowns with 1.5 seconds in the pocket and our gang of slow, poor route running receivers all running a 10 yard hitch?

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Yeah that’s IT! 

The Staff is Failing Young. 

Great. Settled. Bring in another coach and watch him shine.  Glad it is that easy. 

While we are at it… we could also say the opposite. He is failing the team and the staff. Bring in another QB. I mean, they already had to go to the wristband (and all that that implies).

Which do you guys think would bring quicker improvement?

 

I am waiting the few seconds it will take for someone to post some more strawman poo. 

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5 minutes ago, stratocatter said:

Yeah that’s IT! 

The Staff is Failing Young. 

Great. Settled. Bring in another coach and watch him shine.  Glad it is that easy. 

While we are at it… we could also say the opposite. He is failing the team and the staff. Bring in another QB. I mean, they already had to go to the wristband (and all that that implies).

Which do you guys think would bring quicker improvement?

 

I am waiting the few seconds it will take for someone to post some more strawman poo. 

The coach would be BY FAR the quickest improvement. Here’s some evidence for ya, hope you don’t claim straw man!

2022 Indianapolis Colts offense with Frank Reich scored 14.7 points a game over 9 games. 

That same team proceeded to score 30.5 points per game the last 8 games of the season. 

That’s how quickly changing coaching can turn your offense around. The offensive scheme we are attempting to run is so bad all you can do is laugh. We have 4 guys running 10 yard curls and over. It’s insanity. 

 

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