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Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

She was on the fuging phone making the trade up for DJ Johnson. She had to take a class to be able to be part of the interview process for HC. She was at the interview with BY. She was present with the coaches at player evaluations. 

Please. Please. Explain to me what qualifications she has to be any part of those things.

She's hot though. That you can't deny!

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Young is not him

Ekwonu is not him

Horn is not him

Brown is not him

Burns is not him

 

Is it easy to see why this franchise is struggling? A decade of front office implosion with a brief glimpse of front office success before Tepper took over.

 

Moore was him (a great #2 option)

CMC was him (top RB in the NFL)

They were shipped off in exchange for a dumpster fire.

 

Butler was a bust, Thompson has been good, and Benjamin was a bust.

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Just now, CPantherKing said:

Young is not him

Ekwonu is not him

Horn is not him

Brown is not him

Burns is not him

 

Is it easy to see why this franchise is struggling? A decade of front office implosion with a brief glimpse of front office success before Tepper took over.

 

Moore was him (a great #2 option)

CMC was him (top RB in the NFL)

They were shipped off in exchange for a dumpster fire.

 

Butler was a bust, Thompson has been good, and Benjamin was a bust.

Nailed it.

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Just now, CPantherKing said:

Young is not him

Ekwonu is not him

Horn is not him

Brown is not him

Burns is not him

 

Is it easy to see why this franchise is struggling? A decade of front office implosion with a brief glimpse of front office success before Tepper took over.

 

Moore was him (a great #2 option)

CMC was him (top RB in the NFL)

They were shipped off in exchange for a dumpster fire.

 

Butler was a bust, Thompson has been good, and Benjamin was a bust.

Burns was definitely worth the #16 pick. Brown and Horn was stupid and we didn't even need them at their position when we drafted them. 

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7 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

You all know Tepper was the diving force behind the Young pick.  Never before did the S2 test get so much hype.  You think that was the coaches, lol?

Yeah, Frank wanted Stroud. Tepper forced them to draft Young and Reich designed the playbook around Bryce. I used to defend Bryce but it's getting more obvious every week that he is not cut out for the NFL. Definitely not #1 worthy. 

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