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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

He’s not a great prospect his arm is poo.  

Oh, my mistake.  I must have been the only one who had him as a top draft pick. 

Don't twist it.  Bryce has looked horrible the last two games and a lot of that is on him and his play but any QB in this offense is not being put in a position to excel. 

No one on this offense is being put into a position to excel.  Run blocking line told to zone block.  No help on long developing routes.  Vanilla scheme. 

Frank won't do what is necessary.  He'll lead this sinking ship playing his style of offense until he's fired.

I'll say what I've said the whole year.  You can't fully judge Bryce good or bad in this offense.  Those 7 sacks were not coverage sacks.

 

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Just now, Loyalty4Life said:

Oh, my mistake.  I must have been the only one who had him as a top draft pick. 

Don't twist it.  Bryce has looked horrible the last two games and a lot of that is on him and his play but any QB in this offense is not being put in a position to excel. 

No one on this offense is being put into a position to excel.  Run blocking line told to zone block.  No help on long developing routes.  Vanilla scheme. 

Frank won't do what is necessary.  He'll lead this sinking ship playing his style of offense until he's fired.

I'll say what I've said the whole year.  You can't fully judge Bryce good or bad in this offense.  Those 7 sacks were not coverage sacks.

 

Stop. You’re talking too much sense. You’re gonna upset our resident Texans fans.

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Used to defend Bryce. I haven't seen any accuracy besides a pass to a no named Strachan. I have seen him throw 4 pick 6's in a season and fumble the ball many times.  We traded away our 2 best offensive players to watch Bryce throw 2 yard checkdowns all game. When he tries to throw over 10 yards, it's a pick 6. He sucks and it is a huge pill to swallow with how we gave up a King's Ransom for him

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