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[Cavscout]

Playing devils advocate... how can you evaluate a head coach or OC given this team's lack of talent across the board but especially oline and wr. That being said... fire everyone after the season. 

[thennek]

1 minute ago, Cavscout said:

Playing devils advocate... how can you evaluate a head coach or OC given this team's lack of talent across the board but especially oline and wr. That being said... fire everyone after the season. 

The question is why is there no talent and who has been building the roster the past 3-4 years….too many traded picks to find a QB and too many bad trade ups. Frank inherited this mess. 

[Mr. Scot]

31 minutes ago, sonburst4 said:

They are coming.  New GM, head coach, and OC.  Wasting a damn good defense on this crappy coaching staff.

Unless we're also getting a new owner, it's not likely to matter.

Edited November 26, 2023 by Mr. Scot

[Iceup]

4 minutes ago, Cavscout said:

Playing devils advocate... how can you evaluate a head coach or OC given this team's lack of talent across the board but especially oline and wr. That being said... fire everyone after the season. 

IMO it’s easier to gage the coaches ability when the team lacks talent. That’s when a coach really has to put things in place to figure out how to make an offense or defense work.

[The Lobo]

13 minutes ago, CLG said:

Same. Throwing a tantrum in front of people that can report it does nothing but make you look out of control which we can already tell but still lol

He is trash at this, but yes, stop the bs being upset and do something about it ya douche. 

[tukafan21]

41 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

We need to start thinking about QB options seriously.

 

Can we get Justin Fields for a 3rd Rd pick?

 

Our next HC and GM are not tied to Bryce noodle arm Young.

Sweet jesus, you really want to replace our crappy QB with another crappy QB who is going to lead his team to back-to-back Top 5 picks in the draft and is getting replaced because of it?

While also giving up our 2nd best draft pick at the same time?

We can't look at replacing Bryce until 2025 as there won't be a long term FA option we can sign (or would even want to sign here) and we don't have the draft capital to get a replacement either.  At this point we just have to hope we end up in position to draft someone with elite upside in 2025 and we don't have to wait until 2026 (although I wouldn't hate that as it would open up the possibility of Arch Manning, assuming he becomes what everyone expects).

We screwed the pooch despite 90% of fans being able to see this coming with Bryce, it's beyond fathomable that they could convince themselves to make that trade and then take the biggest gamble in the history of the NFL draft by taking someone who was going to have to be the biggest outlier in the history of the league to be successful.

We put ourselves here, we now have to live with the consequences and go about a re-build the smart way instead of constantly trying to fit the square peg in the round hole by any means necessary.

Edited November 26, 2023 by tukafan21

[Htarnation4.0]

Any time you draft a QB it's a crap shoot. Any pick really. That said, gamble on the intangibles. Bryce didn't have the size, strength, speed or arm (accuracy) to gamble on. Here we are. Tepper is DUMB!

[CLG]

16 minutes ago, Iceup said:

IMO it’s easier to gage the coaches ability when the team lacks talent. That’s when a coach really has to put things in place to figure out how to make an offense or defense work.

Pretty much what we are seeing with the defense. Production at all depths

[lightsout]

Panthers have lost to the team they traded DJ Moore to to get Bryce, Anthony Richardson's backup, and Will Levis. And just barely got by CJ Stroud because of some voodoo magic (I'm convinced at this point).

 

Can't make this poo up lol

[PantherPhann89]

55 minutes ago, Pantha-kun said:

Its past time for some firings. Nothing is changing and we're 1-10 after what we thought was the worst coach in our history winning 5 games each of his two full seasons. There's no reason this team should be this much worse than the last couple Rhule seasons. Then what was the point of getting rid of him if we were just going to be a worse team? 

We could have easily kept CMC, DJ, Darnold, PJ, Wilks, drafted Jalen Carter, and at the very least have been somewhere near a .500 team. And we couldve saved all those god damn draft picks

Hindsight is always 20 20...

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, PantherPhann89 said:

Hindsight is always 20 20...

Or 50-50

[PantherPhann89]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Or 50-50

Different definition of the two, but okay...

 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, PantherPhann89 said:

Different definition of the two, but okay...

Going back to a previous player's quote.

I don't remember who. Might have been Newton but I can't remember.

[hepcat]

Evero is a seriously good coach. Making the defense look respectable with genuine crap in the secondary and nobody linebackers.