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89's reaction to the Combine

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If we're in position to draft Adonai Mitchell or Ladd McConkey as the 5-6th WR off the board, the path is clear.  If not, then I'm not sure about WR at 33.  I just hope Morgan doesn't overdraft to the effect Fitt and DG both tended to do, but who knows.  I know the speed is tantalizing but I'm not wild about Worthy.  Coleman is a wildcard for me and the value just isn't there with the rest of them.  

 

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1 minute ago, Bear Hands said:

If we're in position to draft Adonai Mitchell or Ladd McConkey as the 5-6th WR off the board, the path is clear.  If not, then I'm not sure about WR at 33.  I just hope Morgan doesn't overdraft to the effect Fitt and DG both tended to do, but who knows.  I know the speed is tantalizing but I'm not wild about Worthy.  Coleman is a wildcard for me and the value just isn't there with the rest of them.  

 

Coleman screams Dave Gettlemen logic to me.  I'd hate to see that at 33. 

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1 minute ago, Bear Hands said:

He just doesn't fit what we need but I like the guy.  Could have success, just not in CAR

agree.  and a HUGE part of success for dudes is about fit/team.  Coleman IMO doesn't fit with where the 2024 Panthers are.  

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On 3/6/2024 at 1:17 PM, Tr3ach said:

Thats not how it works though.  There were lots of wide receivers last year that went much later than 33 and had huge holes compared to what we can get at 33 this year that contributed greatly to their teams last season.    Puka had one of the best receiving rookie seasons in history and went in the 5th round and had plenty of holes in his game.  

This. There are booms and busts and underperformers and over performers in every single draft class. Always have been, always will be.

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15 hours ago, rayzor said:

We should go BPA the whole draft.

Rather, BoPA.

Best Offensive Playmakers Available.

That's probably what they will do except they will unfortunately exclude QB. If there is a QB sitting there that has a reasonable chance to be better than the one we have? 

If that happened, they would pass. I’d sure love to hear the discussion over it. (edit: take the damned QB, the one we have has not given us a reason not to).

For me, I want a special player and don’t care what position. Just be special. Absolutely do not pass on special. A center, a returner, safety, don’t care what their position is. Do that and go find more of them. 

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2 minutes ago, strato said:

That's probably what they will do except they will unfortunately exclude QB. If there is a QB sitting there that has a reasonable chance to be better than the one we have? 

If that happened, they would pass. I’d sure love to hear the discussion over it. (edit: take the damned QB, the one we have has not given us a reason not to).

For me, I want a special player and don’t care what position. Just be special. Absolutely do not pass on special. A center, a returner, safety, don’t care what their position is. Do that and go find more of them. 

With all of our needs on offense I can't imagine a scenario where a quarterback is BoPA

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12 minutes ago, MechaZain said:

With all of our needs on offense I can't imagine a scenario where a quarterback is BoPA

If Penix is there, if you're married to taking the BPA, then you have to have a discussion. He arguably had the best Combine, throws accurately, has an arm---can basically spin it. I can imagine him being the BPA at the beginning of day 2 of the 2024 draft after all the careers are set in stone.

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1 hour ago, MechaZain said:

With all of our needs on offense I can't imagine a scenario where a quarterback is BoPA

Sure, but what you are saying (or the people saying BOPA) is that a value choice has arbitrarily been made to exclude defensive players from consideration. Because, greater need. 

Keep on with that train of thought and you can get to elevating QB to the biggest need. 

Personally I wish they’d get another young QB to compete and may the least terrible win. Doesn’t have to be at 33. Don’t care where they get him just get him. (make this guy show me he can beat Somebody out. It would help him too if he could).

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      You don’t even need 1b because Tepper is the only one foolish enough to wheel that deal.    Player wise? Jake’s elbow. JR and Pep getting sideways, no Carruth, Cam’s shoulder, Luke’s concussions, it would be a long list of stuff. You can take it down to certain plays in games. Fox chasing 2 point conversions in the SB would be on my list. RMJr slipping at the end of that same game was not helpful. 
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      Ultimately this just amounts to heavy revisionist history. I mean you aren't talking to someone that just popped out the womb a week ago. I was here all throughout the predraft process. The overwhelming majority of the fanbase felt like this was a fine situation and the best situation for a rookie QB to go to compared to Houston for example. The hype for Young and our "rockstar" staff was off the charts. No one could dare speak cautious skepticism of his abilities or they would be neg repped into oblivion. Only after he had one of statistical worst rookie seasons of the last 25 years did we get this narrative now that his rookie season actually shouldn't count. Complete malarkey if you ask me.
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      On the field? Since I guess it qualifies as multiple instances it might not count, but have the damn refs throw some flags on illegal hits to Cam's head in SB50. If that doesn't count, 1A. Cotchery caught it 1B. Kasey keeps that kickoff inbounds. Off the field? 1A. Team is sold to anyone but Tepper 1B. We have the patience not to mortgage the franchise on that Bryce trade. Stroudwpuldve been the better pick but he's not worth it either.
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