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6 hours ago, jb2288 said:

Bucs had the worst run game in the league last year. I know that because I remember being happy when we hired Canales but having some real concern about that 

They had the worst run game in the league the year before he got there, too.

They eventually got better, but he had them climbing out of a hole that were pretty deep in already.

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3 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

I think this will basically come down to Cousins. He has far less of an ideal situation in Atlanta than Minnesota but it does seem like his main priority is one last cash grab.

Ideally, he signs a mega deal with the Falcons and then promptly starts to show his decline while saddling them with a roster nuking contract.

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Where does Cousins and Fields go?  Maybe we find out today.  Cousins isn't the hold up because the team he ditches is drafting a QB.  Fields, on the other hand, could land somewhere either as a starter or backup.  If it's a backup situation, then that could mean one more team looking for a stater in the draft.

Ideally 5 of the 6 get drafted in the first round and we start taking calls at #33 to trade back for that last dude.  Sorry, but there is a big drop off between Nix/Penix and Rattler.

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Just now, Jackie Lee said:

 

In the words of Dave Gettleman, we had better be shopping at the thrift store.  Don't expect any news of the Panthers signing anyone in the tampering period.  That's how Fitterer got two expensive, but very average, O-linemen (Pat Elflein and Cam Erving).

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9 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

In the words of Dave Gettleman, we had better be shopping at the thrift store.  Don't expect any news of the Panthers signing anyone in the tampering period.  That's how Fitterer got two expensive, but very average, O-linemen (Pat Elflein and Cam Erving).

Very average is being kind if we're talking about starters. They were definitely below average starters. I guess they were probably about average in terms of overall rostered NFL OL.

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2 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

There were reports awhile back that the Pats would go vet for QB. Brissett is in that good backup/marginal starter category. If they're signing him so the #3 overall pick isn't necessarily forced into action if he's not ready and to be a vet mentor that makes a lot of sense. If they're signing him as the answer so they can go WR at #3 that's laughable.

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