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Oh no we’re getting rid of players that helped us to a 2-15 record


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1 hour ago, Gipetto said:

This team had no identity and every player is replaceable. Dan Morgan is doing an actual rebuild. Let him cook before you crucify him.

As of now I agree. They really want to tap into what Young may have, which they could never do with the state of things. Could be nothing. But it’s really the only option with the investment made.

If he shines, you splurge on defense. If not, enough time has passed where they’re actually in a position to try again. They’re not in a position to try again right now, people really need to accept this.

You don’t just simply instantly bounce back from the likes of Rhule, Reich and most of all Fitterer. What reality does that happen?

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1 hour ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

They need to trade Bryce. I'd even go for a 6th round pick like the Pats did with Mac Jones. He clearly isn't going to succeed next year with this team and he'll be first on the chopping block in 2025.

Just blow it up completely until there is nothing.

You just can't do that after spending the number 1 pick on him last year. Don't get me wrong, Bryce very well could be a complete bust, but you have to give him 1 more year and see how he looks. If I see no progression and he still only makes maybe 1 wow play a game, then you can look at QB next year (if there is a good one at #1) or all-out tank again in the 2025 season and get a QB in 2026.

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No one from last year's team's job should be safe.  I would have taken a 3rd for Brian Burns before paying him.  He's a scumbag that intentionally didn't put in any effort to avoid injury and get his payday.  He more or less admit that himself. Even when he did try he was getting manhandled by TEs, getting bulldozed in the running game, and rushing past the QB every other play. Good riddance.

Sucks to lose Frankie Luvu, but again, putting money into the LB position isn't going to net this team anything.  Games are won up front.  We have needed to reinvest in the o line and d line for quite some time now.

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7 hours ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

They need to trade Bryce. I'd even go for a 6th round pick like the Pats did with Mac Jones. He clearly isn't going to succeed next year with this team and he'll be first on the chopping block in 2025.

Just blow it up completely until there is nothing.

If he doesn't turn it around, we're getting more value out of him as a tank commander than a 6th round pick.  A competent backup could easily mess that up.

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2 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

If he doesn't turn it around, we're getting more value out of him as a tank commander than a 6th round pick.  A competent backup could easily mess that up.

This right here^^^

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The only guy we've lost so far that I'm a bit sore over losing is Luvu. Losing Burns sucked bc we know what we could have got for him last year, if we traded him when his worth was much higher. But he was a necessary loss at this point, especially since it's helping shore up the O-line in Free Agency which was BADLY needed.

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