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How do we feel about Canales


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1 hour ago, CPantherKing said:

I feel Bryce and Evero stans are trying to blame Canales.

Canales has shown offensive improvement. It's always been Bryce and Evero who have held back the team. Canales shows promise, but he has to free himself from Bryce and Evero.

Any offensive improvement has been kinda minimal against a bad Raiders team.  He looks a little shaky otherwise. I'm not even sure that he's a good situational play caller. He has to start being a little more creative in my estimation. He has been calling plays, so he's not exactly new at that.

I was just getting ready to criticize him for not playing Coker, but at least he's beginning to do that.

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1 minute ago, Jackie Lee said:

So far his biggest value to me was he got Bryce benched so we could see something somewhat resembling NFL offensive football. For Tepper it seems like if he can't fix Bryce Young and if he isn't a play calling genius he's a bit expendable. I'd give him another year with his own QB to be fair

As much as I have opposed CRA for his past POV about Canales I do have to say any credit Canales gets for benching Bryce is nullified for the fact he hid him in preseason. He was hired in part to at least try to fix him. Not only did he not but he and Dan Morgan decided it was a great approach to coddle him with absolutely no backup plan other than Dalton and a UDFA afterthought.

Yeah he will be here next year because you have to let him try and get "his guy". But at this point I see little to no hope for next season. I fully accepted this would be a lost and possibly ugly season but I had hoped to see some development of the younger guys on the roster and so far not only is that not happening we are just getting outclassed everywhere you look.

Canales is earning himself plenty of criticism and it should get louder. Some might say it isn't fair. But he took the job.

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4 minutes ago, Kentucky Panther said:

He’s been fine. The offense has been good today and we have less than average talent outside of the offensive line. 
 

I will be interested to see how he looks next year once we have some time to build the defense a tad more. 

We have better than average talent at the offensive skill positions, we just have to put them in the best positions for success by calling better plays.

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1 hour ago, CRA said:

He is an offensive coach/QB guru…

I think the D can suck, we lose games we should still be able to judge him.  AT missing games shouldn’t matter at all IMO.  

if all that works is Dalton, Dionte and Chubba….we should let Tepper do Tepper things IMO

 

I’m not sold on the guru part but I’m willing to wait and find out. 

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He can’t be judged based on the defense right now. The offense has looked a good bit better since he benched the midget. Last week was awful but the bengals and failcunts games it was clear we were just outmatched but kept the games about as close as we could reasonably expect. 

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I think he shows a lot of promise. This team stinks, straight up...but we are at least seeing signs of life, and the team doesn't appear to just be giving up. Perfect example is our drive to end the first half today...how long has it been since we've seen that? That has been a run twice, half-assed pass attempt then take it to half show for most of what I can remember. We took it down and scored 6. We are in a Detroit Lions like 3-4 years ago situation. Not saying it's going to turn out the way they did, but you have to give him the chance to succeed or fail in his vision.

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