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Common denominator between Jets and Panthers

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Both teams can't evaluate QB's and make bone head moves. They obviously can't evaluate talent at the position. 

Put some good players around a QB with natural talent and a quality Oline along with good coaching, and you have something. Both gave up on Darnold and he is tearing it up now. 

Looks like a completely different player. Both the Jets and Panthers haven't won sh%t for years. And probably won't win squat for years to come.

Donald is a stud and just needed that kind of team and coaching to get it out of him. Both teams couldn't  provide that. 

Jets have sh%t owner ship and it works it's way all the way down the organization. Panthers have sh%t ownership also. Making bonehead moves between hiring coaches and signing players effects everything.

Pisses me off when I have to watch a QB we gave up on succeed for another team while we totally suck.

 

 

 

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I really don't like being worse than the Jets lately. They are the next worst team in the Tepper error and it stinks.

Darnold is on a 1 year deal in a perfect situation for him. We didn't use him well, as the bridge he could be, but we sure are not built for him to succeed here now. Of all of the terrible choices and outcomes he isn't very high on my list when compared to the rest of the poo show.

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16 minutes ago, Jmac said:

Both teams can't evaluate QB's and make bone head moves. They obviously can't evaluate talent at the position. 

Put some good players around a QB with natural talent and a quality Oline along with good coaching, and you have something. Both gave up on Darnold and he is tearing it up now. 

Looks like a completely different player. Both the Jets and Panthers haven't won sh%t for years. And probably won't win squat for years to come.

Donald is a stud and just needed that kind of team and coaching to get it out of him. Both teams couldn't  provide that. 

Jets have sh%t owner ship and it works it's way all the way down the organization. Panthers have sh%t ownership also. Making bonehead moves between hiring coaches and signing players effects everything.

Pisses me off when I have to watch a QB we gave up on succeed for another team while we totally suck.

 

 

 

Darnold had some success here as well, but if you think he would be tearing it up for us right now and we would be looking like a playoff team you are sadly mistaken. 

He has cooled off considerably in their last couple of games, but they have a good overall team built around him. 

Minnesota is fifth in points allowed per possession (1.49) and has the second-best points per game differential in the NFL (+10.2)

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29 minutes ago, Jmac said:

Both teams can't evaluate QB's and make bone head moves. They obviously can't evaluate talent at the position. 

Put some good players around a QB with natural talent and a quality Oline along with good coaching, and you have something. Both gave up on Darnold and he is tearing it up now. 

Looks like a completely different player. Both the Jets and Panthers haven't won sh%t for years. And probably won't win squat for years to come.

Donald is a stud and just needed that kind of team and coaching to get it out of him. Both teams couldn't  provide that. 

Jets have sh%t owner ship and it works it's way all the way down the organization. Panthers have sh%t ownership also. Making bonehead moves between hiring coaches and signing players effects everything.

Pisses me off when I have to watch a QB we gave up on succeed for another team while we totally suck.

 

 

 


The bigger piece of the puzzle here is time. Darnold obviously needed time to figure things out.

The other stuff absolutely helps, but nothing helps more than experience.

Some guys just take longer to put it together.

Tepper gives up way too easily. 

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I still remember Darnold being annoited around here after the fourth game or so. By the final game he played here, many people around here wanted him gone.

I saw him as a stopgap while we should've accumulated additional talent. Instead, we dumped most of our assets - including Darnold - to draft a QB and figured that was somehow going to work. In retrospect, very much a Jets type of move.

Darnold's definitely in a better position to succeed with the Vikings but I expect him to either falter when things get harder and/or get hurt because I found him to be injury prone. Like when he went on IR for his ankle in pre-season or when he concussed himself against the Falcons. 

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1 minute ago, Jackie Lee said:

Speaking of how did they miss this face mask call on Darnold to end this TNF game?

Yeah, that's just inexcusable. I mean, the game is basically already over but still. You can't miss THAT. The defender has his head in his hands knowing the flag is coming and then it just doesn't come. LOL

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, that's just inexcusable. I mean, the game is basically already over but still. You can't miss THAT. The defender has his head in his hands knowing the flag is coming and then it just doesn't come. LOL

Darnold out there showing more emotion than we saw in two years

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