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With the first pick, don't draft a QB? Draft a DE? C'mon!


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7 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

By the time everybody is ready to draft another QB our offensive line will be garbage again and receiving core empty. 

Right now it's the best its been in YEARS even the superbowl run. but no...lets get a mediocre vet to put back there to do the bare mininum and hold back the offense.

WE LOVE TO DO THINGS BACKWARDS. 

There is a good chance this will be Moton’s last year. Makes a lot of sense to use it giving a rookie QB an established solid OL to start his career. 

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Our D is horrendously bad and one draft cycle isn’t going to fix that.  I was on the trade down train myself but the more I think about it the more I believe that if we are going to get any resemblance of an NFL team in that the time frame it will take to fix the D, we will need and offense that can just flat out outscore the other team.  We have a good oline, we have a top RB, hopefully 2, we have developing WRs and a promising looking TE, all young.  The piece we are missing, Cam Ward

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Just now, HPPantherzfan said:

Our D is horrendously bad and one draft cycle isn’t going to fix that.  I was on the trade down train myself but the more I think about it the more I believe that if we are going to get any resemblance of an NFL team in that the time frame it will take to fix the D, we will need and offense that can just flat out outscore the other team.  We have a good oline, we have a top RB, hopefully 2, we have developing WRs and a promising looking TE, all young.  The piece we are missing, Cam Ward

Yeah defenses are easier to turn around than offenses (especially when you are looking for a QB). Take a look at the Broncos. Allowed 70 last year to the Dolphins, this year they put together a solid makeshift defense while eating the Russ contract and drafting Nix in the first. There also isn’t done premium defensive player that should go at pick 1 as of right now.

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4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah defenses are easier to turn around than offenses (especially when you are looking for a QB). Take a look at the Broncos. Allowed 70 last year to the Dolphins, this year they put together a solid makeshift defense while eating the Russ contract and drafting Nix in the first. There also isn’t done premium defensive player that should go at pick 1 as of right now.

Exactly, don’t overthink it!

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11 hours ago, TD alt said:

You don't have to immediately start him, that depends on the QB, and that should be obvious to anyone who doesn't have a closed mind. It wasn't moronic to start Jayden Daniels, C.J. Stroud, or Cam Newton.  There are more examples. Everyone is not Anthony Richardson, Malik Willis, or Geno Smith.

You don't follow the draft do you?  For every Daniels and Stroud there are 10 busts. Hell, you don't have to look no further than our team.  This is NOT a good QB class.  I'm BPA, unless it's a QB.  Free agency is he way to go and wait until '26 when the QB class will be much better.

 

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8 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

Don't get suckered into highlight videos with wide open WRs.  Young was hitting open targets at Bama too. I think I saw one tight window throw for a TD and that was inside the 10 yard line...so short.

Ward is hands down the best QB in this class.  That said, he's not close to a generational QB.

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5 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

You don't follow the draft do you?  For every Daniels and Stroud there are 10 busts. Hell, you don't have to look no further than our team.  This is NOT a good QB class.  I'm BPA, unless it's a QB.  Free agency is he way to go and wait until '26 when the QB class will be much better.

 

Every year..... next years class is supposed to be much better until that year actually gets here. Remember the stroud/bryce class was supposed to be that much better class. 

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1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

I feel like if you draft Hunter at 1, you almost have to use him mainly as a WR. You just don’t take CBs that high.

You’d want to get the most out of him and that would be playing him both ways. And the best way to do that is mainly CB and rotate him in at WR but I’d much rather trade down 

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1 hour ago, HPPantherzfan said:

Our D is horrendously bad and one draft cycle isn’t going to fix that.  I was on the trade down train myself but the more I think about it the more I believe that if we are going to get any resemblance of an NFL team in that the time frame it will take to fix the D, we will need and offense that can just flat out outscore the other team.  We have a good oline, we have a top RB, hopefully 2, we have developing WRs and a promising looking TE, all young.  The piece we are missing, Cam Ward

Yeah, especially with the line we have. O-linemen dont last that long. They are good for 2-3 years if you are lucky. By the time we wait for a greater QB, we will have to rebuild it again.

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