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Bryce has changed. He is much more calm and is throwing the ball well out of the pocket. 

But, he’s still not a franchise QB. he can’t throw deep. and if you can’t throw deep, you aren’t a playoff QB. 

Hes at least proven capable of being a decent backup QB though. not what you want to hear for a number one overall you traded up for though. 

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, BC is getting beat pretty regularly if you watch, so I don't think Ikey being back would be worse. Minus his problem with penalties.

Plus, Ikey is literally one of our best run blockers.

...alls I can say is ***** Ickey....we want him to be good.... I keep pulling for him.

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Just now, CBDellinger said:

You celebrate victory anytime it happens in the nfl. 1 play, 1 quarter 1 game… if you don’t you’re just gonna be a loser. Confidence is king.  

Well, there is today and there is building this team going forward.  I mean Dwyane Jarrett could come out of the stands and catch a TD pass.   We could celebrate the TD.   But we could also talk about if he should be on the field for us big picture 

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2 minutes ago, CRA said:

but if you only look decent vs the worst of the NFL….does that make you decent?  And that where Bryce is, somehow okay vs disaster teams 

Understood. But I like how he's trusting his protection and utilizing lesser known receivers (3 rookies).

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1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

We really going to end up with the #8 pick and Bryce starting at QB again aren't we?

 

I knew this franchise would screw up the #1 pick. Just some sad poo how we keep doing this to ourselves.

 

We are bad enough to gift another team the #1 pick, but we aren't bad enough to actually help us smh.

 

 

I'd much rather have a confident team and the #8 pick. Bryce (Stroud) and now Caleb Williams (Daniels) prove that the consensus #1 overall doesn't mean poo. 

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