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11 minutes ago, Fenrir said:

For those who want us to tank: Who in this draft has franchise QB tendencies and skills that will translate to the next level?

I honestly don’t see a single player with franchise QB characteristics.

I’m still not sold on Bryce long term, but we have needs all over in order to set the next young QB up for success.

Tanking is silly.  It never works. 

But given that its impossible to predict who will actually be a franchise qb, and who will not, if we are in a position and the team feels that a qb is worth a shot, I don't mind. Virtually everyone thought that Trevor Lawrence was not only a franchise qb, but a generational talent (he is not), while Patrick Mahomes was thought to be a guy who might turn into something, I have zero trust in any predictions about whether a qb will be a good NFL qb.  

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48 minutes ago, Champagnepapi704 said:

Just ruin your chance at getting better baby

That's a loser mentality. We moved up to pick number 1 just the season before last and what did that get us? A point guard. If you think having pick 7 instead of 3 changes our future you're trippin.

Most people here were saying 4 or 5 wins this season would be considered a success. Now, we're almost there and some of you want us to lose every game for a roll of the dice. 

Amazing what some people have become these days. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, mav1234 said:

So I missed the first half and only came in for the fourth - how was BY in the first half? 

Didn't screw up, didn't do anything great.  I think Dave is trying to bring him and the offense, along very slowly.  

First drive was mainly the Chuba show.  

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No. Stop being happy. Winning is bad. We're supposed to be miserable and making mistakes trying to play moneyball!!! /s

 

Fun win for the team. Chuba played his ass off today and the OL held up. Had some ugly drops take place but hopefully that can be worked out.

DJ Wonnum's impact on the field was a lot bigger than I expected. Frustrating to think about how this defense would've looked with DB, Wonnum, Shaq, and Dane Jackson all being healthy at the same time. Wallace has made losing Shaq sting less, but man it's sucked seeing the DL, EDGE, and CB groups churn the way they have.

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3 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Tanking is silly.  It never works. 

But given that its impossible to predict who will actually be a franchise qb, and who will not, if we are in a position and the team feels that a qb is worth a shot, I don't mind. Virtually everyone thought that Trevor Lawrence was not only a franchise qb, but a generational talent (he is not), while Patrick Mahomes was thought to be a guy who might turn into something, I have zero trust in any predictions about whether a qb will be a good NFL qb.  

It doesn’t? Washington traded away Sweat and Young in 2023 and landed pick 2 in 2024. They also let Howell get 25 turnovers on the way to 4 wins. They took Daniels with pick 2 and are looking like a playoff team.

It’s not hard to find examples of tanking working. When you take a Young over a Stroud, don’t trade Burns early and you don’t tank, it can hurt way worse than just tanking because if you make a QB drafting mistake, you’ve got no extra picks to recover.

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10 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

It doesn’t? Washington traded away Sweat and Young in 2023 and landed pick 2 in 2024.

I suppose it depends on your definition of tanking.  I don't consider a couple of trades tanking.  The CMC trade for us wasn't tanking, just getting draft picks for a guy who wasn't healthy much.  And they wanted to play Howell and see what they had.  

Tanking to me is what Miami did a few years ago, when they basically got rid of a lot of players,  and it hasn't got them much other than the ability to challenge for a wildcard spot.  

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2 hours ago, Icege said:

No. Stop being happy. Winning is bad. We're supposed to be miserable and making mistakes trying to play moneyball!!! /s

 

Fun win for the team. Chuba played his ass off today and the OL held up. Had some ugly drops take place but hopefully that can be worked out.

DJ Wonnum's impact on the field was a lot bigger than I expected. Frustrating to think about how this defense would've looked with DB, Wonnum, Shaq, and Dane Jackson all being healthy at the same time. Wallace has made losing Shaq sting less, but man it's sucked seeing the DL, EDGE, and CB groups churn the way they have.

Lol. I’ve enjoyed watching both wins with my youngest. Hubbard’s been awesome.

That said, we’ve beaten 2-8, 3-7 (1 win against us) and 2-7 teams. You can imagine all you want what this team would be like without injuries but every team has injuries.

We aren’t a good team and I don’t begrudge any fans looking to the draft pick either. I enjoyed every win but I also know that even with some healthy guys, this is not a playoff team. This is a team that playing mistake free can beat other 2-3 win bottom 5-10 teams.

I hope we get a great pick that someone else desperately wants or lands us a legit D stud. I’m not a QB fan this year but maybe someone else is. I don’t see many wins, if any, left. 

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