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Young vs WIlliams over the past three games


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16 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I just don't think he loves football.

 

16 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

He got his money and a little fame and checked out. That is hard to predict when evaluating a prospect. Sometimes it's obvious but many times it's not until they get that 1st nfl check. 

He also was quoted as saying that he figured the NFL was going to be easy. Now that it isn't, he is reevaluating. It is easy to say they don't love it or the money makes them different. But now that they are on podcasts and give more behind the scenes interviews, you see how some of these kids are wired. I think he is just lazy due to being a top tier athlete his whole life and now that it is a profession it has beat him down mentally like it does so many QB prospects. Especially a guy who had less than 20 starts after highschool. I will say this, I don't think he has it mentally to make the jump and rebound on his own. He will need coaches, mentors to get him there and be willing to listen. 

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12 minutes ago, NorthTryon said:

 

He also was quoted as saying that he figured the NFL was going to be easy. Now that it isn't, he is reevaluating. It is easy to say they don't love it or the money makes them different. But now that they are on podcasts and give more behind the scenes interviews, you see how some of these kids are wired. I think he is just lazy due to being a top tier athlete his whole life and now that it is a profession it has beat him down mentally like it does so many QB prospects. Especially a guy who had less than 20 starts after highschool. I will say this, I don't think he has it mentally to make the jump and rebound on his own. He will need coaches, mentors to get him there and be willing to listen. 

If he doesn't have the desire and commitment to be the best don't waste your time on him.

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1 hour ago, NorthTryon said:

 

He also was quoted as saying that he figured the NFL was going to be easy. Now that it isn't, he is reevaluating. It is easy to say they don't love it or the money makes them different. But now that they are on podcasts and give more behind the scenes interviews, you see how some of these kids are wired. I think he is just lazy due to being a top tier athlete his whole life and now that it is a profession it has beat him down mentally like it does so many QB prospects. Especially a guy who had less than 20 starts after highschool. I will say this, I don't think he has it mentally to make the jump and rebound on his own. He will need coaches, mentors to get him there and be willing to listen. 

Damn. Do you have a link to that interview? That is so wild.

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3 hours ago, NorthTryon said:

 

He also was quoted as saying that he figured the NFL was going to be easy. Now that it isn't, he is reevaluating. It is easy to say they don't love it or the money makes them different. But now that they are on podcasts and give more behind the scenes interviews, you see how some of these kids are wired. I think he is just lazy due to being a top tier athlete his whole life and now that it is a profession it has beat him down mentally like it does so many QB prospects. Especially a guy who had less than 20 starts after highschool. I will say this, I don't think he has it mentally to make the jump and rebound on his own. He will need coaches, mentors to get him there and be willing to listen. 

Just to be clear, was that quote from Richardson or Williams?

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19 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

https://x.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1856005425583321339?t=wWufSMGTRhauxt-vs7qhGg&s=19

(links still not embedding for me, maybe it's my browser)

I've seen more than one rumor that his teammates aren't exactly fond of him. This scene might lend to that idea.

 

17 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

https://x.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1856399610366882012?t=Lo5sR-mMfntOOQMMMS1LyA&s=19

The "Waddle" of Waddle & Silvy being former Bears receiver Tom Waddle...

For all the concerns I have with Bryce Young about his abilities as a passer at least he's not a bad teammate or a drama queen. I'll give him credit there.

But from the standpoint of a Panthers fan who watched Bears fans all across social media gleefully talk cold hard poo and rub our noses in it just earlier this year all I can say is.... BEAUTIFUL.

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21 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Damn. Do you have a link to that interview? That is so wild.

 

19 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Just to be clear, was that quote from Richardson or Williams?

Actually said after playing that it is easier. That is even worse. 

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23 hours ago, NorthTryon said:

 

He also was quoted as saying that he figured the NFL was going to be easy. Now that it isn't, he is reevaluating. It is easy to say they don't love it or the money makes them different. But now that they are on podcasts and give more behind the scenes interviews, you see how some of these kids are wired. I think he is just lazy due to being a top tier athlete his whole life and now that it is a profession it has beat him down mentally like it does so many QB prospects. Especially a guy who had less than 20 starts after highschool. I will say this, I don't think he has it mentally to make the jump and rebound on his own. He will need coaches, mentors to get him there and be willing to listen. 

He's being misinterpreted the same way Bryce was when he said he took a week or two off to watch Netflix and decompress.

Here's the full clip:

He said that he feels like the NFL is easier because everybody is good and trying to stay employed versus being in college and having guys on the field with you that aren't that confident. They don't have to do it all by themselves like in college, they can depend on their teammates in the NFL.

 

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16 minutes ago, Icege said:

He's being misinterpreted the same way Bryce was when he said he took a week or two off to watch Netflix and decompress.

Here's the full clip:

He said that he feels like the NFL is easier because everybody is good and trying to stay employed versus being in college and having guys on the field with you that aren't that confident. They don't have to do it all by themselves like in college, they can depend on their teammates in the NFL.

 

The reason I brought this up in the first place was his mindset. Saying at any point the NFL is easier than college is nonsense and a person who is strong mentally would never say that. Now he is the guy his teammates cannot depend on because he isn't strong mentally(ex: pulling himself out of a game). 

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