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Here is where I'm at.  Young had his best day as a pro.  He kept us in the game and didn't lose it for us. GREAT! However, that stat line is a mediocre game for the average NFL QB and this is his best game to date.

I'm happy for him to keep playing better, especially if it keeps out of the QB conversation on day 1 in April.  I simply think his ceiling is career backup or low end starter. 

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27 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

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Here is where I'm at.  Young had his best day as a pro.  He kept us in the game and didn't lose it for us. GREAT! However, that stat line is a mediocre game for the average NFL QB and this is his best game to date.

I'm happy for him to keep playing better, especially if it keeps out of the QB conversation on day 1 in April.  I simply think his ceiling is career backup or low end starter. 

Maybe in a vacuum, but probably more appropriate to compare his game to other QBs that have played KC this season. 

And I wouldn't call that a mediocre game. Have you watched the other young QBs play lately? Everybody isn't lighting it up, even against weaker defenses. And carolina had no run game to lean on today. 

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1 hour ago, 45catfan said:

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Here is where I'm at.  Young had his best day as a pro.  He kept us in the game and didn't lose it for us. GREAT! However, that stat line is a mediocre game for the average NFL QB and this is his best game to date.

I'm happy for him to keep playing better, especially if it keeps out of the QB conversation on day 1 in April.  I simply think his ceiling is career backup or low end starter. 

I can agree with that, in that this is his ceiling. He's been continuously improving which has been impressive. Looking forward to a few more games and see what he does.

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1 hour ago, 45catfan said:

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Here is where I'm at.  Young had his best day as a pro.  He kept us in the game and didn't lose it for us. GREAT! However, that stat line is a mediocre game for the average NFL QB and this is his best game to date.

Yeah, it's not like he was playing against one of the best teams in the league or anything.

 

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1 hour ago, Navy_football said:

Maybe in a vacuum, but probably more appropriate to compare his game to other QBs that have played KC this season. 

And I wouldn't call that a mediocre game. Have you watched the other young QBs play lately? Everybody isn't lighting it up, even against weaker defenses. And carolina had no run game to lean on today. 

People look at his stats and all they see is him doing the same.

But this week he did it against the chiefs .

People are overlooking that essential bit.

So used to him looking mediocre at best against bad teams, even though he's been getting a good bit more confident each week.

Truthfully, the chiefs should have slaughtered him and he should have had the WORST game of his career.

That didn't happen. Why? Because maybe he's getting even better than we thought?

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16 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It makes me interested to see what he does going forward. Nothing more, nothing less. He had a good game against a good team. Right now that's a massive anomaly in his career. So let's see what happens going forward.

This is the right approach. But will add there is reason to be optimistic based on the last 4 games. 

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7 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It makes me interested to see what he does going forward. Nothing more, nothing less. He had a good game against a good team. Right now that's a massive anomaly in his career. So let's see what happens going forward.

He looked for once like a competent nfl qb.  His guys had some drops, he had some misfires but he also had like 3 above average throws.  He should start from here on out and see what happens.   Even after yesterday I still think competition should be brought in in the offseason if we are going to keep him

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8 hours ago, rayzor said:

Yeah, it's not like he was playing against one of the best teams in the league or anything.

 

This KC team isn't the juggernaut it once was.  How many one score games have they won this season?  How many of those one score wins would probably have been loses if Mahomes wasn't the QB?  Their secondary is vulnerable and it was obvious today.  Grandpa Thielen was able to get open at will all game long.

Bryce played well, but thinking this is the exact same KC defense Young was able to move the ball against as last year isn't going to compute.  Last year's KC defense was #2 overall.  They have regressed.

I've said it before, Bryce can move the ball before the red zone, but once there, he struggles.  He is not a threat with his legs and the passing windows get much tighter.  He's not turning the ball over, so that is a great place to start and build upon.  I still question much better he can get.  Beyond a game manager?  I highly doubt it.

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