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Hot Take: This team will never get over the hump, until we move on from Bryce.


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Teams, panthers especially, who annually draft a guy they think will save their franchise from the doldrums are rewarded a continuing fate. 

Winning franchises draft boring lineman, stop the run and get after the QB. They pass protect and coach up good QB to be great QBs. They stack good talent next to elite talent. 

This team is far from that point. Roll with Nice Young, build the team and the culture and see if he continues to grow. 

Burrow, Cam, Stafford,  Allen… unicorns. 99.9% of QBs don’t take that kind of beating and still win games. 

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Cam is the only QB in this draft worth a 1st, and we won’t be in range to get him. Use this draft to build the roster up, and if we’re in this same spot next year, grab your QB. The class next year is looking much better. 
 

Im not sold on Bryce either, but you give him next season. If the team is still in this spot after next season, you move on. 

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7 hours ago, Jackson113.2 said:

Prime Cam did more with less, so don't give me that no weapons crap.

When exactly was this? It definitely wasn't his first 2 seasons because that's the only time you can compare with Bryce right now, since he isn't a finished product. Just like Cam wasn't in year 2. I'm not comparing Bryce's physical abilities to Cam. That would be flat out ridiculous. But Cam came into a much much better situation to develop as a rookie. 

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1 minute ago, Navy_football said:

When exactly was this? It definitely wasn't his first 2 seasons because that's the only time you can compare with Bryce right now, since he isn't a finished product. Just like Cam wasn't in year 2. I'm not comparing Bryce's physical abilities to Cam. That would be flat out ridiculous. But Cam came into a much much better situation to develop as a rookie. 

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5 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

When exactly was this? It definitely wasn't his first 2 seasons because that's the only time you can compare with Bryce right now, since he isn't a finished product. Just like Cam wasn't in year 2. I'm not comparing Bryce's physical abilities to Cam. That would be flat out ridiculous. But Cam came into a much much better situation to develop as a rookie. 

Yep, if you're going to compare the physical talent then you've got to also compare the anticipation and touch that Bryce throws with.

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