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QB stock market - week 18

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1 hour ago, Davidson Deac II said:

I agree.  I think on the offensive side, if Young continues to improve, we are really only 1 or 2 players away from being very good.

On the defensive side, we need to totally revamp the front 7.  

I agree, tho some of that is my faith in our young weapons. I really wish we'd feature Coker like we tried to with Legette last week. I think he's something special.  Limited snaps makes it hard to judge but his stats are pretty ridiculous for what little usage he's had (his yards per target is top ten in the league)

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On 1/2/2025 at 3:49 AM, Shotgun said:

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Stroud 19 td  12 int

Young 12 td  9 int

Youngs having a better year?

I have no idea what people are looking at when they make such claims.

There isn't a metric by which Bryce is having a better year than Stroud.

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1 hour ago, Aussie Tank said:

They use game tape instead 

They most definitely aren't. That's for sure.

 

From the looks of it They might be basing it off bad math of stat projections in the other thread 

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