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Jackie Lee

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2 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

WOW, way too much time left for Buffalo, and if they score, there won't be much left for KC

actually, Buffalo hasn't struggled to score on offense this year. What THEY have to be careful about is leaving any time left on the clock when they do score. Because that is a death sentence vs the Chiefs.

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1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

Again, neither ref could actually see the ball

The ref who would have been facing the ball was 100% blocked out of view by all the big linemen, as there was a camera down the line that was like 10 feet in the air and we couldn't even see the ball there because of all the players, no ref standing on the field was seeing it when we couldn't.

Again, so why should the ref who had a view of Allen’s back get the benefit to overrule the other? If either did see the ball, which one would it have been?

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Just now, Bama Panther said:

Again, so why should the ref who had a view of Allen’s back get the benefit to overrule the other? If either did see the ball, which one would it have been?

you keep saying "overrule" but that's a woefully inaccurate term when neither one was "overruling" the other.

What does seeing Allen's face vs back have any bearing on it, neither view helps you determine where the ball is in relation to the line to gain.

It's the same way all ball spots happen, the first ref to be given the ball is the one who spots it, if you have a problem with that, take it up with how the game is officiated, but there was nothing nefarious here.

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11 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

or, you know, they made the call they thought they saw on the field

Just because it went one way, doesn't mean there was bias involved, not everything is some big conspiracy theory

so they both saw it, and didn't see it

lmao ok dude, no changing your mind

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