Canales and Young

[DaveThePanther2008]

The best thing about these two, as long as they are together, is the offensive philosophy stays the same. Young is only going to get better and better if Canales continues to evolve as a head coach. We've seen several QBs degress when the OC/Play caller moves on to a new team. 

Brady had one head coach and had his system so down pat that Brady probably was thinking just like Bilichick. 

If we build around Young and Canales grows as a HC we might actually keep an offensive head coach longer than 2 years. 

[Mistuh Jones]

Don't forget that Dave will continue to evolve as a playcaller, now that the trust has actually been established with Bryce. The ceiling is the roof.

[ECHornet]

If Bryce gets some continuity with Dave over the next few years, I think he can approach his ceiling as a Drew Brees type. Brees got the ball out quick and had elite accuracy. Bryce has that capability. He made great strides this year, and finding his comfort zone is going to enable the fast processing he was known for coming into the NFL. 
 

It’s nice to feel like we have a head coach who can get the most out of their players for a change. 

[Joe Bear]

This is a fair point. I'm glad Canales is also adaptable in his decision-making. Miles Sanders convinced him to run the ball on first and goal against Atlanta, and it resulted in the walk-off TD. If it's a pass, sure, there's every chance Young ends up running it in -- but there's also the greater possibility of a holding penalty or a turnover.

It wasn't a smart call at first, but his relenting was wise and it showed a quality few NFL coaches have: the willingness to consider their first opinion isn't the gospel.

[PootieNunu]

2 hours ago, Joe Bear said:

This is a fair point. I'm glad Canales is also adaptable in his decision-making. Miles Sanders convinced him to run the ball on first and goal against Atlanta, and it resulted in the walk-off TD. If it's a pass, sure, there's every chance Young ends up running it in -- but there's also the greater possibility of a holding penalty or a turnover.

It wasn't a smart call at first, but his relenting was wise and it showed a quality few NFL coaches have: the willingness to consider their first opinion isn't the gospel.

Sanders just wanted the TD, a run play on first and goal from the 1 is never a bad call. 

I do like what Canales was able to do with Young though, he was just a few games from being gone and he completely turned him around. 

Edited January 15, 2025 by PootieNunu

[L-TownCat]

4 hours ago, Mistuh Jones said:

The ceiling is the roof.

[Jackofalltrades]

I'm excited about the possibilities with them moving forward. My concern now is to see how they adjust to the league having a bunch of film, will they be able to stay ahead of the curb?

[NorthTryon]

There was a pundit on a podcast who said that when we went on the close game run with a win here and there that Canales was "calling plays out of his mind". There were really some good wrinkles and some players being schemed open. I am excited to see what happens as personnel gets more experienced and we add some pieces. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

So now you all love him now!? Damn hypocrites 

[bythenbrs]

2 hours ago, Jackofalltrades said:

… stay ahead of the curb?

Stay ahead of the Kurb?  Do we have a Kurb sighting?

[outlaw4]

From a personality standpoint, Young and Canales seem to be a good pairing. There aren't too many coaches who could bench a guy and yet keep that guy's trust in you. 

Absolutely they're nowhere close to Mahomes/Reid, but in the Atlanta game, some of Canales's playcalls were about as bold as his QB was. A good sign Canales himself is gaining the confidence to call what he wants without worrying too much whether his players could execute. 

[CBDellinger]

1 hour ago, bythenbrs said:

Stay ahead of the Kurb?  Do we have a Kurb sighting?

That guy wasnt afraid to wield the ban hammer.

Edited January 16, 2025 by CBDellinger

[DaveThePanther2008]

10 hours ago, Jackofalltrades said:

I'm excited about the possibilities with them moving forward. My concern now is to see how they adjust to the league having a bunch of film, will they be able to stay ahead of the curb?

That's a true sign of a good coach. Making those halftime adjustments. We haven't had a OC that adjusted well since Dan Henning. 

I also think Canales got better with his play calling as time went by.  It was refreshing to see misdirection and other non stardard plays. 

[Jackofalltrades]

6 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

That's a true sign of a good coach. Making those halftime adjustments. We haven't had a OC that adjusted well since Dan Henning. 

I also think Canales got better with his play calling as time went by.  It was refreshing to see misdirection and other non stardard plays. 

That should be expected as he learns strength's, preferences, tendencies, etc.; but a lot of that is evident on game tape too. So we'll see how the offense evolves. Another pitfall is letting the pendulum swing too far and you over adjust and get too complex. It's a delicate balance for sure.