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5 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Some absolute garbage time stats makes his stat line look a lot better than he played. A couple last minute TDs against a team that was already in celebration mode is the only thing that kept him from having one of the worst SB performances i can remember.

Yes Mahomes was way way way off his game not sure if it was from going out the night before or just shell shocked or what .  Eagles were the bettter team and glad they won but mahomes did not look like his normal self at all. 

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24 minutes ago, fanpanther said:

Yes Mahomes was way way way off his game not sure if it was from going out the night before or just shell shocked or what .  Eagles were the bettter team and glad they won but mahomes did not look like his normal self at all. 

I think it was all about the Eagles' front four dominating the Chief's OL. If you can consistently get instant pressure only rushing four being able to drop seven into coverage that's QB nightmare fuel. It's basically impossible to succeed in that environment.

It's similar to what the Broncos did to us in SB50. We didn't have any receiving threats that scared them so they just played straight man against our receivers and if your guy stayed in to protect them you blitzed to nullify the extra blocker so he couldn't help elsewhere basically ensuring Von Miller and DeMarcus Ware get one on one matchups every snap. Their edge rushers were better than our tackles and their CBs were better than our WRs and the refs let them treat Cam's head like a piñata so we were basically fuged from jump street. The Chiefs were fuged from jump street last night because their OL was woefully outmatched.

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38 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think it was all about the Eagles' front four dominating the Chief's OL. If you can consistently get instant pressure only rushing four being able to drop seven into coverage that's QB nightmare fuel. It's basically impossible to succeed in that environment.

It's similar to what the Broncos did to us in SB50. We didn't have any receiving threats that scared them so they just played straight man against our receivers and if your guy stayed in to protect them you blitzed to nullify the extra blocker so he couldn't help elsewhere basically ensuring Von Miller and DeMarcus Ware get one on one matchups every snap. Their edge rushers were better than our tackles and their CBs were better than our WRs and the refs let them treat Cam's head like a piñata so we were basically fuged from jump street. The Chiefs were fuged from jump street last night because their OL was woefully outmatched.

If you don't have to blitz the D can eat. 

 

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I have been saying i would seriously consider going DE rounds 1 and 2.  Plenty of good skill position players will be available later in this draft. If you can get a consistent pass rush on the defense you can fix a lot of issuses. The best guys in this draft we be gone by round 3 

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8 hours ago, Icege said:

Still made the SB and Bryce still played the Iggles close soooo not sure what kind of dub you think you've gotten yourself 😮

At least the halftime show was fun. Was better than the game. 😄

That same Chiefs team that nearly lost to us and nearly lost to the Raiders just got the doors blown off for 3 whole quarters in the Super Bowl. This year their roster was simply not as good as years past and it wasn't even close IMO. People pointed that out throughout the season but some others like yourself argued otherwise. And no acknowledging this doesn't mean they "suck" but the reality remains given the results yesterday.

As far as the Eagles go that team is absolutely stacked. Hurts is a good QB and has dynamic ability but overall he's not been expected to do much and he's had a number of games with low production this past season. Honestly they should have been up even more on the Chiefs and one could argue with a more consistent QB they would have. That's how talented that roster is and how good their staff is.

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48 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

I have been saying i would seriously consider going DE rounds 1 and 2.  Plenty of good skill position players will be available later in this draft. If you can get a consistent pass rush on the defense you can fix a lot of issuses. The best guys in this draft we be gone by round 3 

Yeah I think Wr's are good for now, TE's are developing. Derrick Brown will be back and we have serious issues at edge and ILB, we picked up Mike Jack for nothing and he was one of our best players on D. 

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6 hours ago, panthers55 said:

The Eagles dominated on both sides of the line which was the key to success. And that is how to beat any team by not having to blitz on the defensive side and being able to pass protect and block on the offensive side. 

We have done a good job on the offensive line and need to do the same on the defensive side this year.  I am convinced if we can pressure the quarterback without blitzing like Philly did last night, we would be a contender. I think we really need to upgrade DLine and safety. Everos scheme demands pressure and right now we have no one outside of Brown who can collapse a pocket or demand a double team.

Bryce and the offense's worst game after he resumed started was the Dallas game, primarily because they were getting pressure up the middle. If you get pressure up the middle and the opposing qb is not Michael Vick, the defense is going to have a good day.  

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16 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Bryce and the offense's worst game after he resumed started was the Dallas game, primarily because they were getting pressure up the middle. If you get pressure up the middle and the opposing qb is not Michael Vick, the defense is going to have a good day.  

Exactly. So other than Brown, why do we have no one else who can collapse a pocket instead of dancing around it.

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