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Verge, why do you like Mykel Williams?

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jfra78 Grand Master

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19 minutes ago, Icege said:

Pretty good plan imo considering the following RBs on the schedule:

  • Bijan Robinson (x2)
  • Alvin Kamara (x2)
  • Bucky Irving (x2)
  • Christian McCaffrey
  • Josh Jacobs
  • Kyren Williams
  • James Connor
  • Breece Hall

Plus there's back ups like Jets'  Braelon Allen, heavy rushing attacks like the Bills, and teams with an entire stable of backs like the Seahawks to account for. 

We just had the eagles win the Superbowl with a heavy rushing attack.  It's the new trend and it's why Everos defense has looked like poo cause it designed to stop the pass

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23 minutes ago, Icege said:

Pretty good plan imo considering the following RBs on the schedule:

  • Bijan Robinson (x2)
  • Alvin Kamara (x2)
  • Bucky Irving (x2)
  • Christian McCaffrey
  • Josh Jacobs
  • Kyren Williams
  • James Connor
  • Breece Hall

Plus there's back ups like Jets'  Braelon Allen, heavy rushing attacks like the Bills, and teams with an entire stable of backs like the Seahawks to account for. 

Most of those guys you listed are going to hurt you just as much in the pass game, also you can't build a defense around your schedule in 1 season.

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31 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

Most of those guys you listed are going to hurt you just as much in the pass game, also you can't build a defense around your schedule in 1 season.

No, but considering that over a third (~35%) of their schedule are the other three teams in the NFC South and all three have strong starting (and back-up) RBs that the offense leans heavily on to open up the pass game.

  • ATL: Bijan has this season and next season before the Falcons have to make a decision on his fifth-year option, Tyler Allgeier is a proven back-up RB that could start for some teams, and 2024 sixth-round selection Jase McClellan returns from a knee injury that sidelined him for the remainder of the season starting in early September. Combine that with their QB situation, and that's a team that is going to lean heavily on the run just like they did last season when they were 8th in the league in rushing attempts, 10th in rushing yards, 8th in rushing TDs, 9th in rushing attempts on 1st down, .
  • NO: Similar situation as ATL, but for different reasons. Derek Carr is in the second to last year of his deal and the QBs behind him are Spencer Rattler, Jake Haener, and Ben DiNucci. However, they also have Alvin Kamara. One thing that we know about Kellen Moore from his stints as an OC is that he likes to lean heavily on a versatile RB1 while bringing in an arguably equally versatile RB2 to keep their foot on opposing defenses. When Moore had Zeke in Dallas, Zeke was 4th in the league in touches during those four years but Pollard still averaged 10 touches and nearly 60yds a game. Look for the Saints to shore up their RB room in the draft with Kendre Miller, CEH, Jordan Mims, and Xazavian Valladay all competing for touches behind Kamara.
  • TB: Bucky Irving exploded onto the scene last season, but we can't forget more than capable (now-)RB2 Rachaad White. White is on the last year of his rookie deal, but Irving is under contract until 2028. Last season, the Bucs were 10th in rushing attempts, 4th in rushing yards, 3rd in YPC, 7th in carries of 20+, 8th in carries of 40+, and 7th in first down rushing attempts and that helped Baker Mayfield be one of the most efficient passers in the league with a 71.4% completion percentage (good enough for 2nd in the league).
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2 hours ago, Joe Bear said:

Barno needs to stay healthy and he can be a Mario Addison, Al Wallace-type second-teamer.

Addison is a good example of a late bloomer who found his niche.  We just cant draft another Everette Brown. 

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1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

Addison is a good example of a late bloomer who found his niche.  We just cant draft another Everette Brown. 

That's my concern with this guy. The economy's already starting to resemble 2009, let's not make the draft do the same.

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1 hour ago, jfra78 said:

We just had the eagles win the Superbowl with a heavy rushing attack.  It's the new trend and it's why Everos defense has looked like poo cause it designed to stop the pass

It is? We gave up 4000+ yards and 35 TDs in the air. LOL

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4 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I would say that the majority of Huddlers do not want Stewart or Williams.  Is that a fair statement?  We will have better safeties who are dawgs in run support, hopefully better LB play, much better DLinemen, and our CBs are good tacklers.

This player needs to be a beast who can get to the QB.  Let the other guys play the run--see ball, get ball.

At 8 I want someone who you can't find a comparable player for later in the draft. So I want a physical specimen who is a beast but also was productive and has that dog in him. Stuff you can't learn but makes it easier to be successful. Obviously Graham is a beast and Warren can get pressure and could contribute immediately. 

I know folks hate Hunter at 8 but he may be the best defensive player in the draft and could start on either side of the ball. Then again I like TEs who can dominate out of the gate so don't take my advice....

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3 hours ago, jfra78 said:

We just had the eagles win the Superbowl with a heavy rushing attack.  It's the new trend and it's why Everos defense has looked like poo cause it designed to stop the pass

They also have a top receiving tandem in the NFL and a defense that had Mahomes totally flustered.  It's hard to compare any style to the Eagles because they have the best roster in the NFL by a fairly large margin.

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You don't have to sell anyone that our run defense needs fixing. But we don't have to draft project defensive linemen at 8th overall to address our deficiencies. Some people here just live to shine shoes.

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Plenty of investment into run protection at this point. With the SS they signed I wouldn't mind a FS. I think CB could help but I would rather see that help deep if the pass rush is as it's looking at this point.

 

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