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Albert Breer: Panthers turned down trade down offers from 49ers and Rams

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13 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Yeah like the Rams never tried to trade for Burns and the 49ers didn't trade up for Lance. Even the better teams still do big stupid things at times.

Should have taken that trade IMO. Both of those teams are desperate for rookie talent with their cap issues. This will be interesting to look back on too.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Yeah like the Rams never tried to trade for Burns and the 49ers didn't trade up for Lance. Even the better teams still do big stupid things at times.

Should have taken that trade IMO. Both of those teams are desperate for rookie talent with their cap issues. This will be interesting to look back on too.

I wonder what the offers were? I get the feeling that not too many teams would want to break the bank with the long list of similarly ranked players out there after the 3-4 blue chip guys. Dropping back to 26 seems too far IMO without their next year's #1 being in the mix.

Now dropping from #8 to #11 intrigues the crap out of me! Assuming that the offer was at least #11 and #75.

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29 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Yeah like the Rams never tried to trade for Burns and the 49ers didn't trade up for Lance. Even the better teams still do big stupid things at times.

Should have taken that trade IMO. Both of those teams are desperate for rookie talent with their cap issues. This will be interesting to look back on too.

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7 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

I wonder what the offers were? I get the feeling that not too many teams would want to break the bank with the long list of similarly ranked players out there after the 3-4 blue chip guys. Dropping back to 26 seems too far IMO without their next year's #1 being in the mix.

Now dropping from #8 to #11 intrigues the crap out of me! Assuming that the offer was at least #11 and #75.

I woukd have loved droping back late. That's where the value was this year with the top lacking so much talent, end of the first and top of the second. I was also fine with taking future picks which teams devalue too much. 11 sounds great but then I would have hoped for another trade back personally.

 

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48 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Yeah like the Rams never tried to trade for Burns and the 49ers didn't trade up for Lance. Even the better teams still do big stupid things at times.

Should have taken that trade IMO. Both of those teams are desperate for rookie talent with their cap issues. This will be interesting to look back on too.

Both teams seem to know WR talent.  How can you say we should have accepted the trade when we don't know what was offered?  The Niners weren't far behind us, I doubt they threw in a future premium pick.  

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30 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Both teams seem to know WR talent.  How can you say we should have accepted the trade when we don't know what was offered?  The Niners weren't far behind us, I doubt they threw in a future premium pick.  

Both of those teams are well run but not infallible. I get it. Some people like the pick and some people don't. That seems to surprise you and my take is hardly incendiary or reactionary.

The future picks was about going to the end of the round, where I wish we moved...like I stated about where I saw good value in this draft.

I would have taken most trades at a discounted value in this draft. I hope the details leak. I would like to know what they passed on.

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I was 100% ready for us to not take T-Mac the last few weeks as all the smoke was that we were going defense, just as I was probably expecting to see us trade back than use the pick as well.

But if we traded back and the team that took our pick then used to to take T-Mac, I'd have been legitimately devastated, I'd rather have seen us just pass on him than do that, it would have hurt.

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Seems like there was a good chance of Jacksonville taking TMAC at 5 had they not traded up. Schefter was making the rounds in the day or 2 before the draft saying the Jags wouldn’t be taking Mason Graham. I know it’s hard for people to come off of what the media big boards said, but TMac appears to have been one of the small group of coveted players this draft. Morgan and Canales said in their presser they were happy when the Browns took Graham because that meant there was a good chance Tmac would fall to them. Not bummed Graham went off the board, excited. They said it would have taken extra to entice them to trade out of that spot when Tmac was available, not a discount but a premium. Very encouraging.

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4 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

Seems like there was a good chance of Jacksonville taking TMAC at 5 had they not traded up. Schefter was making the rounds in the day or 2 before the draft saying the Jags wouldn’t be taking Mason Graham. I know it’s hard for people to come off of what the media big boards said, but TMac appears to have been one of the small group of coveted players this draft. Morgan and Canales said in their presser they were happy when the Browns took Graham because that meant there was a good chance Tmac would fall to them. Not bummed Graham went off the board, excited. They said it would have taken extra to entice them to trade out of that spot when Tmac was available, not a discount but a premium. Very encouraging.

You're the first person I've seen mention them say they were excited when Graham got taken, they actually said something like "we thought it meant we'd get our guy"

So everyone who was saying things about how it sounded like we wanted Graham but when he was taken, T-Mac was the pick, I'm not so sure, it might have been T-Mac the whole time and they were afraid off him going there at 5 since the Browns need WRs and that's what they really meant in that press conference.

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2 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

You're the first person I've seen mention them say they were excited when Graham got taken, they actually said something like "we thought it meant we'd get our guy"

So everyone who was saying things about how it sounded like we wanted Graham but when he was taken, T-Mac was the pick, I'm not so sure, it might have been T-Mac the whole time and they were afraid off him going there at 5 since the Browns need WRs and that's what they really meant in that press conference.

Based off their comments, I absolutely think it was Tmac the whole time and the only thing they weren’t sure of is whether he would even be there at pick 8.

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