something to feel good about in the offseason..."could be something special brewing in Carolina"

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Jimmy really does compliment those big outside WRs pretty well.  Twitchy speedster is something we need on this offense.  I'd love it if he could be used similar to Curtis Samuel.  I know the odds aren't in his favor based on where he was drafted.  

I mentioned it pre draft but I'd be open to Curtis coming back if the Bills cut him.   Think that would carry better odds for slot help than Renfrow. 

[ForJimmy]

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mentioned it pre draft but I'd be open to Curtis coming back if the Bills cut him.   Think that would carry better odds for slot help than Renfrow. 

You are going to feel silly when your guy is cooking on Sundays.  He is only a year older than Samuel surprisingly.  Honestly our WR room is pretty jammed tight right now.  XL, TMac, and AT are locks with probably Coker.  The other slots will be for young guys to develop (David Moore is probably gone).  Horn has a chance as a returner and I wish Moose Jr has a better shot at making the team but I doubt it...

[LinvilleGorge]

I would LOVE for Renfrow to ressurect his career here but I'd be lying if I said I expected it. He's basically four years removed from being an impactful player and was out of the league altogether last year. The way I see it, it's a low risk move for a hometown kid so fug it... let's give it a shot.

[Seltzer]

29 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mentioned it pre draft but I'd be open to Curtis coming back if the Bills cut him.   Think that would carry better odds for slot help than Renfrow. 

Better speed too. I'd love to add another speed guy beyond Jimmy Horn.

Renfrow is a great story, and if he can return to his pre illness form, he could be a legit contributor.

But I'd take Samuel over anyone else for that last WR spot

[panthers55]

On 5/18/2025 at 11:00 AM, WhoKnows said:

There in lies the rub. We don’t have a winning culture yet because we haven’t had a winning season since 2017 (8 years away now) and it’s weird how that’s not understood.

I hate to say it, but Fitterer fuged U.S. hard by trying to win with a no talent team and trading away the house.

Last year’s team, QB and HC all showed promise. The problem is that talent wise we are still miles from the top teams. Before people interject with the we played KC and Philly tough, the Matt Rhule and Bridgewater led meh team of 2020 lost to both 1 seed teams by the same one score margin and we had chances to win both of those games. That’s the NFL, bad teams often surprise the top teams. The KC team Rhule almost beat was far better than the 2024 Chiefs.

Anyway, I’m legitimately worried that we are absolutely going to get stuck in that 7-10 to 10-7 range where we can win our crap division but we don’t have the talent to do anything else and we can easily have an bad injury year and our depth gets us an under .500 finish.

Someone mentioned Detroit and until we have some of their drafts, like Gibbs, LaPorta, Branch and Campbell in 2023, we are going to be middle of the road for a while. Let’s hope the 2025 draft class is it.

I am with you but at this point a winning season and 10-7 would double our win total of 2024. I would be glad to get to that point and then contemplate how to get to the next level. The reason we just talk about a winning culture but we don't experience it is because we had peach basket turnover  in players and coaches. This is Canales second year. There is actually thought that this might be the guy, a Pete Carroll clone who might be around long enough to actually build a winning tradition. But you got to talk about it and get buy in and actually win more than you lose. Then when you do it for several years you begin to expect it and do whatever it takes to achieve it.  That then builds a winning culture

[frankw]

The buildup of the Hunter Renfrow hype here is entering kiss of death territory if I'm being realistic.

[PNW_PantherMan]

10 minutes ago, frankw said:

The buildup of the Hunter Renfrow hype here is entering kiss of death territory if I'm being realistic.

Yeah I'm expecting the same impact as Jordan Matthews.

[LinvilleGorge]

10 minutes ago, frankw said:

The buildup of the Hunter Renfrow hype here is entering kiss of death territory if I'm being realistic.

Not sure anyone is anything more than cautiously optimistic. It's probably not gonna work out, I think everyone knows that.

[jfra78]

1 hour ago, frankw said:

The buildup of the Hunter Renfrow hype here is entering kiss of death territory if I'm being realistic.

Starting to feel like the Tarik Cohen hype