Media touting tonight as The Shedaur Show

[jtm]

It is preseason and Sanders is one of the most talked about draft picks in a long time and he plays the QB position . . . I look forward to watching him as well.  I'm pulling for the kid but not tonight.  

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

11 minutes ago, CRA said:

pretty much.  I only watch the Panthers.  I would tune in to see Ward and Sanders in a preseason game for a minute or two though.  Only rookies would ever have me tune into another team's preseason game.  I'm sure media is just playing the proper promotion card because they can get people to tune into this one.  

Yeah, I don't get defensive when the national media hypes this kind of thing. Didn't they do the same thing for BY's first preseason? actually, nevermind...

[CPcavedweller]

9 minutes ago, jtm said:

It is preseason and Sanders is one of the most talked about draft picks in a long time and he plays the QB position . . . I look forward to watching him as well.  I'm pulling for the kid but not tonight.  

My whole issue with the Sanders saga is the talk of his lack of physical tools. 

We drafted a literal a average man off the street first overall, and traded the farm to do it. He's got below average arm strength, complete outlier in height (if you like box and whisker plots), and average speed. 

All I know is that if Bryce had gone to Colorado, he would have been a fourth round pick and had Sanders gone to Alabama, he would have been a first round pick. 

The school matters, the college coaching matters, and I think that NFL teams, particularly coaches, were worried that if they drafted Shedeur, and the team failed, then Neon Deion would be there willing and ready to take an NFL Head Coaching job. 

1. Big 12 offensive player of the year

2. Unitas Award Winner

3. Multi-All Conference Player

4. highest completion % in FBS

5. 4th in touchdowns in FBS

6. I believe 1st in yards in FBS

7. Four year starting QB

All while playing in a Pro Style offense where your leading running back had 300 yards, all year long. He took a lot of sacks, but he was constantly in predictable throwing situations because they couldn't run. He nearly brought them back against USC in 2023.

All I'm saying is that his resume is not that of a 5th round QB. If Sanders wasn't his last name he would have, at the least, gone in the 2nd round. That said, I'm hoping he shows up and shows out. I didn't care, and typically don't care about other teams players, but with the amount of crap he has taken just by being Deion's son, I hope he makes it and charts his own path. 

[CPcavedweller]

5 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

Yeah, I don't get defensive when the national media hypes this kind of thing. Didn't they do the same thing for BY's first preseason? actually, nevermind...

You remember when Bryce was benched last season? A lot of people got very defensive over Bryce, saying the Panthers had failed him. 

Well, here we are. I honestly think that line of thought is related to factors other than their play, which I won't name here, but so be it. 

 

[PantherChris]

2 hours ago, Puresteel55 said:

Watching Good Morning Football now and all they can talk about is seeing how Shedaur does and whether or not Dieon will be there. Not talking about the Panthers at all.

This is a nationally televised event and, even though it is preseason, it is ultimately important that the Panthers show up in the first half tonight. 
 
Can you imagine what the media will do to us if a rookie 5th round pick outplays our #1 overall veteran pick?

Say what you want, if this happens it will get into the heads of the players. Better we avoid this and force the narrative of the “new look” Panthers!

GO PANTHERS!!!

Who cares? 

[gakonline]

The good news is our DL starters from last year are now our backup depth. Young DBs have experience under their belt. LB’s are the weak unit now but if the DL does their job they will make the entire back seven better. 
 

I think our depth is better than most think and will be amped up for tonight’s game. 

[CRA]

30 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

My whole issue with the Sanders saga is the talk of his lack of physical tools. 

We drafted a literal a average man off the street first overall, and traded the farm to do it. He's got below average arm strength, complete outlier in height (if you like box and whisker plots), and average speed. 

All I know is that if Bryce had gone to Colorado, he would have been a fourth round pick and had Sanders gone to Alabama, he would have been a first round pick. 

The school matters, the college coaching matters, and I think that NFL teams, particularly coaches, were worried that if they drafted Shedeur, and the team failed, then Neon Deion would be there willing and ready to take an NFL Head Coaching job. 

1. Big 12 offensive player of the year

2. Unitas Award Winner

3. Multi-All Conference Player

4. highest completion % in FBS

5. 4th in touchdowns in FBS

6. I believe 1st in yards in FBS

7. Four year starting QB

All while playing in a Pro Style offense where your leading running back had 300 yards, all year long. He took a lot of sacks, but he was constantly in predictable throwing situations because they couldn't run. He nearly brought them back against USC in 2023.

All I'm saying is that his resume is not that of a 5th round QB. If Sanders wasn't his last name he would have, at the least, gone in the 2nd round. That said, I'm hoping he shows up and shows out. I didn't care, and typically don't care about other teams players, but with the amount of crap he has taken just by being Deion's son, I hope he makes it and charts his own path. 

I don't know what a pro style O in college is at this point.  Everything sort of morphs including what a NFL O now.  There was a time when no one would have considered what Colorado did pro style. 

I still think Colorado choose not to run more than anything and did some token running.  I can't be convinced the whole scheme and playcalling wasn't simply to tie every amount of O back to Sheduer Sanders.  I mean, then his dad immediately then retired his son's number at Colorado? That jersey retirement IMO sort of gives the game away about what they really were doing in Colorado IMO.   Think overall Deion's help really started to hurt him.  I don't think he was a 1st rounder but also not a 6th.  Probably inbetween. 

 

[t96]

It’s preseason and we have no significant storylines that can draw interest in the preseason so I get it and don’t really care

[ForJimmy]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

I think given the opponent, it could also be dramatically mediocre across the board.

Look it will be either good, bad, or mediocre for sure.

[Pejorative Miscreant]

From what I hear we might get two series of plays max out of the starters.  If there is an expectation for perfection and highlight reels then prepare to be disappointed.  I hope the team (BY in particular) doesn't look bad but I don't expect much more than competent play.

[Candler Cat]

1 hour ago, T-Wazzle said:

Has anyone talked about the Panthers at all since 2015?  Nothing positive anyway. 

Yeah, usually followed by laughter

[CPcavedweller]

3 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

They are attempting to get any kind of ratings on a preseason matchup of two dumpster fire teams. Not surprising since they spun up this entire fake Sanders controversy in the first place for ratings.

That's disinformation. There is a controversy that began when teams were leaking that they wouldn't consider taking Sanders before he ever even had a workout or an interview. Tyler Shough was taken before him for crying out loud. Dylan Gabriel who is half the athlete of Bryce Young yet the same height. Jalen Milroe who lost to Vanderbilt with the collection of talent that Alabama has. Jaxson Dart who was average, at best, in a Lane Kiffin offense which is known to actually be a detriment to QB prospects. 

There certainly was controversy, whether you want to acknowledge it or not. 

[Jackie Lee]

The stadium looks like it's gonna be packed mainly because people wanna see Shedeur lol. The national tv media knows Browns news>Panthers news especially tonight. 

 

[CRA]

1 hour ago, Pejorative Miscreant said:

From what I hear we might get two series of plays max out of the starters.  If there is an expectation for perfection and highlight reels then prepare to be disappointed.  I hope the team (BY in particular) doesn't look bad but I don't expect much more than competent play.

I think the perfect formula is about a quarter in game 1 and about a half in game 2.  Then rest.  Pending you don't have superstars.  Rest them.