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Tonight's Game

Mills

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Proudiddy Grand Master

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3 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

Ummm yeah thats were you get 5th rounders, oh did I mention that said defense gave up the most points in NFL history last season? 

 

Second statement is in no way related dude hindsight and what not, ex all I said about Bryce today = he did what he was supposed too.

 

Acting like a guy is a future star because he did okay vs 2nd and 3rd stringers on a historically bad defense is overkill to me but what do I know.

You’re entitled to your opinion, brother, as am I.  I’m not starting a fan club for any players any time soon lol, but I like the guys I like and I pull for them.  Shadeur is one of those guys.  And obviously, I’m gonna pull for all of our players.

but, I think it would be a bit unfair to just dismiss what Shadeur is doing tonight.  From college to the pros as a rookie, everyone knows the speed is different, the game is faster, the athletes are better, etc., it’s a huge jump.  I wasn’t bringing up Bryce because of what you said about him, because I have no idea what your stance on him is.  I brought him up because we gave up a ton to get him and he has not lived up to the value, AT ALL.  Cam is what a #1 pick should be.  He made the players around him better, carried teams to wins, and made plays happen where there were none.  A superstar.  A game changer.  Even with all the upgrades we have made around Bryce, it’s my opinion he will never be that.  He will always manage games and occasionally make good plays, but he doesn’t change games on his own.  So my point in saying all of that is that Bryce was not worth what we gave up to get him, even if he turns out solid.  Meanwhile, a rookie in Shadeur is out here dotting up an NFL defense in his rookie preseason debut after receiving limited reps in practice and the entire NFL passing him over for 4+ rounds, as though there is no skill gap between the college and the pros.  It’s even arguable he has looked better than Bryce tonight.  That is impressive.  How bad our defense last year is irrelevant.  Some of that is injuries, schematics, etc.  it’s a new year, and even if we were fielding all UDFAs, that is still better than any defense he faced in college, talent-wise.  I continue to bring up the investment for Bryce and the investment in Shadeur, because one had a trove of riches traded away to acquire him and he has struggled for 1.5 years before he finally showed any redeemable ability as a pro.  Whereas Shadeur was treated as an afterthought, has had his own organization treat him like they didn’t ever want him, was given every reason to not look good, and he came out here and killed it - and again, the cost to get him was easy for any organization.

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Just now, Butterflyj30 said:

I can't believe the Browns have a better 2nd and 3rd string that us

They were in the playoffs two years ago with basically the same roster. 

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19 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

Princely is cocky but he didn’t do poo today

I didn’t want to make a snap judgment on him, but he was only noticeable for pursuing plays from behind tonight.  I was hoping for some flashes after all the hype, but only Scourton did that between the two of them.

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6 minutes ago, NAS said:

I have never seen someone get worse every year as a TV commentator like Smitty. Loved him as a player but he has no business being on TV. Stick to podcasts or something 

Dude probably just needs to cash checks.  I would assume 89’s pockets about to get a lot lighter when his soon to be ex wife takes half 

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