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Evero?!?! Should he be on the Hot Seat


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I have been 0% impressed with evero. His d in Denver was pre built and got better after he left.

The d here has gotten worse every year and was historically bad last year. He has picked his guys who have been mostly terrible. He spent most of the offseason on the d. He has 0 excuses and should be on a seat of lava. 

I honestly don't expect him to make it through the year 

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I never liked the injury excuses. There's always going to be guys that go down in a season on a defense, it's just a question of who and when. 

I won't act like we don't have shitty depth on defense. But at some point, Evero is the common denominator if they suck again. Imagine at any other job, if you're leading a department that constantly underperforms, at some point you are going to be held responsible as the leader and get canned for lack of performance, regardless of what may have caused it. 

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1 minute ago, mc52beast said:

Everyone is on the “hot seat” as far as Tepper is concerned. I believe if Canales doesn’t show a huge improvement over last year he will be gone.

Tepper is on the hot seat about firing coaches. Dave signed a six year deal and I believe so did Dan. I think he's paying around 4 HCs right now, if rhule didn't get the lawyer memo. 

It's at that point, where average-good-great HC were avoiding the Panthers. Dave was passed over in Seattle and had to take a OC job in TB. One year later, Brian Callahan was rumored to be the main target for Carolina, he took the titans job instead......(that's hella bad). To save face, Dan hired Dave within days to cover the blunder. 

You can always get someone to take a million+ HC job, but are they worth it??

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2 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Tepper is on the hot seat about firing coaches. Dave signed a six year deal and I believe so did Dan. I think he's paying around 4 HCs right now, if rhule didn't get the lawyer memo. 

It's at that point, where average-good-great HC were avoiding the Panthers. Dave was passed over in Seattle and had to take a OC job in TB. One year later, Brian Callahan was rumored to be the main target for Carolina, he took the titans job instead......(that's hella bad). To save face, Dan hired Dave within days to cover the blunder. 

You can always get someone to take a million+ HC job, but are they worth it??

Teppper just needs to chill for a bit. And quite honestly Canales inherited Bryce as well. He deserves at least 3 seasons to either make Bryce work or get his own QB to make it work.

Not saying Bryce is bad right now, but clarifying the context here. We still need to see him perform well over an entire season and get that win total up over well over 3 or 5  wins. 

I think we need something like an 8-9 or 9-8 season to really make it seem like the team is making progress.  And year 3 of Canales should be when the expectations go up imo. 10 or more wins and/or playoffs should be expected by then. 

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