Post- Training Camp 53-Man Roster Projection

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Seltzer said:

Maybe. He was pretty good in college before a bad injury.

He had a good preseason last year as a UDFA in Washington and was on their practice squad all year so they obviously saw something worth developing.

He signed a futures deal with the Panthers earlier this year, and everything about him has been increasingly positive.

Tremayne has gotten a decent amount of time with the ones, and a lot with the twos for someone that doesn't have a chance.

He's the only other 6'4" plus WR on the team, plays ST, and is a more natural backup to the X receiver position than David Moore.

That was my thinking behind it. But he may well end up as one of the last roster cuts.

If so, I do hope they can bring him back to the PS.

But I personally think there's a good chance he could be claimed given his ST ability and what hes shown at WR.

Well, that's kind of what I mean. He has already been kicking around a PS for a season. He is a borderline roster player/bubble PS caliber guy. It's gonna take a bit of a bump to get him past a regular roster guy like Moore, especially when ST is factored in.

Not saying it's not possible but I just don't think it's very likely.

[Dave Gettleman's Shorts]

4 hours ago, Seltzer said:

By all indications, the surgery was "minor." I know with all surgeries and especially back surgery there can be complications, but I think the whole time Tremble did this with the expectation he would be able to be back for Week 1

It sounds like he will be ready to start back in team drills next week.

He's a veteran who knows the system so I'm sure that helps.

I still can't imagine he will play a normal workload early on though 

going from no live contact to full contact in within two and half weeks until week 1 is asking for another injury especially if his main role is to block 250+ pound defenders

on the other hand, he would also needs reps with Bryce to get timing down as a receiver

he would be on snap count restrictions like you mentioned but there's no point of putting him on the active 53 to play 10-15 ineffective snaps

I think it be smarter to start him on the PUP list to start the season to have more time to ramp his workload up

[Seltzer]

5 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think he was drafted primarily as a return man and then we were going to look to develop him as a WR but he didn't impress as a returner and probably just isn't far enough along as a WR to make it. We'll hope to stash him on the PS and if someone picks him up, oh well. That's just the way it goes with 6th rounders sometimes.

I don't think they will want to expose him to waivers, and I think he will make the 53.

But, to start the season with everyone healthy, I think he will be inactive Week 1 (one of the 7).

I think it will take a trade or injury for him to see much playing time this year.

[Icege]

WR room is going to be interesting because no matter what, the team is keeping 6. There's just too much talent not to. Who that is will of course depend on finances, fit, and more.

• X: Tetairoa McMillan, David Moore, Brycen Tremayne, Ja'Seem Reed
• Z: Xavier Legette, Jalen Coker, TJ Luther, Kobe Hudson
• Slot: Adam Thielen, Hunter Renfrow, Jimmy Horn Jr, Jacolby George

TMac/XL/AT/Coker/Renfrow feel like locks...

Considering that, getting a guy to back up TMac that can play ST is super important. David Moore has been that guy, but Brycen Tremayne might be pushing him...

Trevor Etienne looking good on returns might have been the worst thing to happen to JHJ's chances to make the roster...

Personally, I'd flip the coin between Moore/Tremayne and try to stash the other on PS.

[Seltzer]

4 hours ago, Captain Morgan said:

 

cutting Tremble saves us 4.5 mill.  CFutting Mitchell only saves 1 mill.  Depends on how much we value Tremble's blocking ability.  Maybe Mitchell can block, I don't know anything about him

He was TE3 the last couple of seasons in Detroit in a good TE room.

I dont think there's any chance they cut Tremble.

I guess it comes down to how many 2 TE sets Canales wants to run and if they think they need 4.

I think Mitchell has flashed more than anyone else besides JT Sanders during TC.

[Seltzer]

39 minutes ago, Dave Gettleman's Shorts said:

going from no live contact to full contact in within two and half weeks until week 1 is asking for another injury especially if his main role is to block 250+ pound defenders

on the other hand, he would also needs reps with Bryce to get timing down as a receiver

he would be on snap count restrictions like you mentioned but there's no point of putting him on the active 53 to play 10-15 ineffective snaps

I think it be smarter to start him on the PUP list to start the season to have more time to ramp his workload up

They very well may do that, especially since James Mitchell has looked so good in camp.

[shaqattaq]

10 hours ago, Seltzer said:

He was TE3 the last couple of seasons in Detroit in a good TE room.

I dont think there's any chance they cut Tremble.

I guess it comes down to how many 2 TE sets Canales wants to run and if they think they need 4.

I think Mitchell has flashed more than anyone else besides JT Sanders during TC.

That's why I think we go 4 TE, at the expense of that 10th OL guy. IF Tremble is active against JAX, his reps will surely be limited. We want Sanders to be a pass catching TE, but his blocking is subpar compared to the other 3. Mitchell has been our best TE in preseason games, and I think Evans has potential to surpass Tremble next season. I doubt we have 4 active TE's on game days. 

[jtm]

I don't think they keep 7 WRs and I suspect Moore and Tremayne to PS.  If we lose either of these guys to another team, I'm not losing sleep because the NFL has tons of WRs like this.  As always, us fans over value our players and this team is yet to score a TD so I doubt anyone is eyeing our fringe WRs.  

Edited Wednesday at 01:50 PM by jtm

[kungfoodude]

10 minutes ago, jtm said:

I don't think they keep 7 WRs and I suspect Moore and Tremayne to PS.  If we lose either of these guys to another team, I'm not losing sleep because the NFL has tons of WRs like this.  As always, us fans over value our players and this team is yet to score a TD so I doubt anyone is eyeing our fringe WRs.  

100%. There are rarely, if ever, PS signings that turn into much more than temporary depth pieces. The examples of these are extreme outliers if you look at a season NFL roster transactions log.

[CRA]

as Joe Person pointed out this am, there is a perfect opportunity to try to trade Adam Theilen (who has no future here) back to the Vikings.  Really lean into Hunter tutoring Jimmy Horn and have Horn ready by midseason for slot reps w/ him.  I mean it's not like you want Hunter out there run blocking either so both really a pass heavy look WRs

[mrcompletely11]

8 minutes ago, CRA said:

as Joe Person pointed out this am, there is a perfect opportunity to try to trade Adam Theilen (who has no future here) back to the Vikings.  Really lean into Hunter tutoring Jimmy Horn and have Horn ready by midseason for slot reps w/ him.  I mean it's not like you want Hunter out there run blocking either so both really a pass heavy look WRs

depends on the return I guess.    Did Person mention what that might be?

[kungfoodude]

9 minutes ago, CRA said:

as Joe Person pointed out this am, there is a perfect opportunity to try to trade Adam Theilen (who has no future here) back to the Vikings.  Really lean into Hunter tutoring Jimmy Horn and have Horn ready by midseason for slot reps w/ him.  I mean it's not like you want Hunter out there run blocking either so both really a pass heavy look WRs

This is absurd. Why would they trade for him at a $2 mil higher price tag than his last season in MIN?

I think people really need to avail themselves of the notion(as I stated all of last season) that AT is a tradeable asset. He is a 35 year old WR with a $6.25 mil base salary price. 

[Pejorative Miscreant]

17 hours ago, Camp Fodder said:

I can see 5-6 from other teams on the 53

With very little insght or analysis these would be the areas I would target.  Obviously you look everywhere and I am not guaranteeing or wanting these guys cut immediately but this is a problem area IMO.

ILB:  Krys Barnes, Jon Rattigen, Claudin Cherelus

S:  Nick Scott

CB:  Shemar Bartholomew

[CRA]

15 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

depends on the return I guess.    Did Person mention what that might be?

I mean, you aren't getting much for an old WR who likely is done in the NFL after the next 17 are over. 

but, for those not wanting to lose a Jimmy Horn type due to the bodies in front of him....it would get him a spot. 

I mean, the O should be running through Tmac, XL, Coker, Sanders.   AT IMO stunts development as he occupies often ideal spots for youngsters to get the ball working the area of the field he does