Observer Projections / *Updated Panthers Waiver Additions

[KillerKat]

2 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

Kalen King, now I remember why that name sounds familiar. I drafted him in Madden 24.

[PleaseCutStewart]

14 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

Nice, hopefully that is the last of having to watch Bartholomew be complete ass

[Super Grateful]

Deejay Dallas is a great signing, veteran return man. 

[Loyalty4Life]

Cool.  Another Bryce can't throw deep derailment.  

Pushing the ball down field is not an issue.  Throw that on the trash heap with all the other things Bryce has already proven wrong.

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/panthers/2025/01/09/panthers-qb-bryce-young-2024-season-stats/77587270007/

[Jackie Lee]

 

[Jay Roosevelt]

Now that's an addition I could get behind.

[CRA]

2 hours ago, Loyalty4Life said:

Cool.  Another Bryce can't throw deep derailment.  

Pushing the ball down field is not an issue.  Throw that on the trash heap with all the other things Bryce has already proven wrong.

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/panthers/2025/01/09/panthers-qb-bryce-young-2024-season-stats/77587270007/

I mean, those numbers aren't wiping away the issue. 

30th ranked pass O

32nd 40+ yard pass plays

26th 20+ yard pass plays

31st yards per pass attempt

The website's job is too sell excitement entering season.  Out of the nine stats, only one really zeros in on getting downfield and that is the efficiency aspect.  So it's not a # about when you do it or how much you do it.....it's just rating efficiency when you happen to do it (which isn't a lot for Bryce in a passing tree scheme that generally requires it). 

because if Bryce did go downfield with the efficiency rating suggested and they weren't limited in volume....the passing stats above would be flipped on their head and we wouldn't be bottom of the NFL there. 

 

[Captain Morgan]

1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

 

what happened here?  I wanted us to draft him...was he a bust?  Or is it a cap thing

[CRA]

5 minutes ago, Captain Morgan said:

 

what happened here?  I wanted us to draft him...was he a bust?  Or is it a cap thing

they claim it is a scheme issue. 

but they are claiming a scheme issue for a guy has had a lot of recent off field issues.  Commissioners exempt list last year for some cocaine, assault, etc   Think he got off on all of it but the coke. 

[Jackie Lee]

4 minutes ago, Captain Morgan said:

 

what happened here?  I wanted us to draft him...was he a bust?  Or is it a cap thing

No clue, Pats fans are confused. Maybe Vrabel doesn't like him or something came up. He had an assault and cocaine possession accusation last fall but that was dropped before the season was even over. 

[frankw]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

I mean, those numbers aren't wiping away the issue. 

30th ranked pass O

32nd 40+ yard pass plays

26th 20+ yard pass plays

31st yards per pass attempt

The website's job is too sell excitement entering season.  Out of the nine stats, only one really zeros in on getting downfield and that is the efficiency aspect.  So it's not a # about when you do it or how much you do it.....it's just rating efficiency when you happen to do it (which isn't a lot for Bryce in a passing tree scheme that generally requires it). 

because if Bryce did go downfield with the efficiency rating suggested and they weren't limited in volume....the passing stats above would be flipped on their head and we wouldn't be bottom of the NFL there. 

I see the article he linked referenced the big time throw metric. Never seen that used so often before Bryce Young. That data would have you believe Bryce is a better big time thrower than Josh Allen Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson. Sound a bit far fetched? I can buy into optimism but anyone that actually believes that right now before Bryce embarks on a key prove it season is not existing within reality. I'd love to see it though. Time will tell.

Edited 4 hours ago by frankw

[bandu]

Bryce Young has done anything but be consistent so far in his NFL carrer  .Bryce Young has to first & foremost prove that he is able to successfully hit his target downfield on a consistent basis ...just saying 

5 hours ago, Loyalty4Life said:

Cool.  Another Bryce can't throw deep derailment.  

Pushing the ball down field is not an issue.  Throw that on the trash heap with all the other things Bryce has already proven wrong.

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/panthers/2025/01/09/panthers-qb-bryce-young-2024-season-stats/77587270007/

 

Edited 3 hours ago by bandu

[amcoolio]

I think every single poster on this board knows this is a make or break year for BY and knows he hasn't been consistent enough to warrant a big contract extension.

I also think there are several posters here (CRA, LG in particular) who will never be happy with our QB situation unless we have a top 4 QB like Burrow, Allen, Jackson or Mahomes (and I'm fairly certain they would be bitching at Lamar if he was our QB). Getting a player like that is extremely rare and is something the Panthers haven't done in 30 years... and there's a good chance they will be waiting the rest of their lives as well because the Panthers have been a fairly unlucky franchise and are owned by someone who wants instant gratification.

So for those hoping these conversations will go away, they never will. Cam had a lot of the same negative posts here as well except for one season. It's just part of being in the Panthers fandom

Edited 2 hours ago by amcoolio

[frankw]

If Bryce cannot elevate himself to a top 15 QB with the pieces we have put around him and the resume we were sold before the draft then he was never that guy to begin with.

Can we please stop invoking Cam Newton in defense of our first overall pick? Newton was rookie of the year in a lockout season when many many people here on the huddle said he was a one productive college season project who wouldn't do much and should sit behind Billy Volek. He took relentless grief from the media and this fanbase over the years for just trying to bring a better culture to the Carolinas.

Edited 1 hour ago by frankw